Iran has moved missiles in position to fire on Israel

[Moth]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Actually the USA has made it a mission to protect Israel. Usually from Israels own misdeeds. There are more ways to protect someone than just fighting.
During the Yom Kippar war Israel was getting its butt handed to them. The USA used both spy planes and Sattelites to provide Israel with data it needed to counter strike. We also rushed weapons and supplies to aid them and this helped to turn the tide of battle to their favor.
Let us also not forget the constant flow of cash and aid Israel gets from the USA.
Let us not forget the never ending politcal aid and support Israel enjoys in the UN.
Yes Israel benefits tremendously from our support, more so than any other ally.

Quite true.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by internat

This row is much greater than the strength of the Israeli vs Iranian airforces.

Iran was the only country besides USA to receive the F14 Tomcat. Iran doesn't have the parts nor the same pilots (many trained in USA) it had during the time of the Shah. It may not matter.

52 of the 76 Tomcats are flying. You must have missed the published intelligence reports. At one time, 21 Tomcats were observed by ESM flying over Iran.

The Iranians have not only back-engineered all parts for the F-14s, they've also back-engineered the Phoenix missiles. That will allow the Iranians to shoot at the Israelis from 90 miles out and the Israelis will not be able to fire back. The F-15s would be carrying ARAAMs with a 40 mile range, and the F-16s with a ground attack load out would be carrying Sidewinder exports with an 8 mile range.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by AONE

This administration has been positioning for a reason to attack Iran. I question EVERY report that seems to egg them on. It smells rotten to me.

It's just propaganda and political rhetoric. In the country's history Israel has never, meaning at no time ever, publicly announced attack plans or publicly made threats to attack a country.

Like all of Israel's other military operations, you didn't hear anything about it before hand and didn't know it happened, until after it was all over.

This type of hype and propaganda is successful because so few have a military background and can understand the data they might be reading. An aircraft's range and combat radius are not the same thing. The combat radius is usually 1/3 to 1/4 the actual range because the aircraft is flying fully armed and tactically to evade radar. The range characteristics are for an aircraft that is unarmed an flying at optimum air speed and altitude.

Neither country can attack the other because neither has aircraft that can fly to target and back without aerial in-flight refueling. While Israel does have tanker assets, they don't have enough to support an operation that would require a minimum of 48 aircraft.

As far as Iran's missiles, they're no threat as Iran still hasn't figured out the "ballistic" part of ballistic missile. Even if they had, it would be the equivalent of 2,000 pound bomb dropped from an attack aircraft. The only real difference is that a gravity bomb even when not laser guided has a higher accuracy rate than the CEP (Circular Error Probability) for Iran's missiles.

Figure the Pershing II with its radar guidance system and MARV capability had a CEP of 10 meters, while the Shahab 3B has a CEP of 100 meters.

The Iranians would have to launch 900 missiles in hopes that 10 actually hit the Dimona facility.

[Reads2MUCH]

Originally Posted by Moth

Yet you never fail to answer....

[Moth]

Picture of you in your Klan hat, eh?

[NewToCA]

That's sufficient, thread closed.