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Old 07-11-2008, 01:41 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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The evil that men do live after them; the good is oft interred with their bones." Shakespeare

So, so true!

I read a newspaper account of Jesse Helms life today. He did lots of good and this article stated some of the highlights. But the Bible says, Cast not your pearls before swine. So I won't.

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Old 07-11-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: TX
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But you haven't name one good Helms did for all races. You are making a claim that you couldn't even back up, and you're judging us for dishonoring him. The OP made it clear that his ulterior motive for this thread was to bait "liberals" into bashing Helms. Those that did are helping to fulfill it.

Once again, you made a claim. So either back it up or stop wasting your own time by responding to this thread. Right now, you appear to be no different from Helms.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:17 PM
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But you haven't name one good Helms did for all races. You are making a claim that you couldn't even back up, and you're judging us for dishonoring him. The OP made it clear that his ulterior motive for this thread was to bait "liberals" into bashing Helms. Those that did are helping to fulfill it.

Once again, you made a claim. So either back it up or stop wasting your own time by responding to this thread. Right now, you appear to be no different from Helms.
I don't see being like Helms as a negative. He was much better than most people who found fault with him. He was not a racist. He just thought the government should stay out of socialism. There is a right and a wrong way to accomplish a goal and the government did it the wrong way. The civil war was unnecessary and so have a lot of the legislation that the government forced on people been unnecessary. Things would have progressed on their own and the end would have been the same without a lot of the bloodshed. Unfortunately we will never have a chance to see that. We are being told that our religion is wrong, but every filth that one wants to come up with is right. That is being legislated to us. It will destroy the United States. Now do you really want to get me started. I have a lot more I could say.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:22 PM
 
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I don't see being like Helms as a negative. He was much better than most people who found fault with him. He was not a racist. He just thought the government should stay out of socialism. There is a right and a wrong way to accomplish a goal and the government did it the wrong way. The civil war was unnecessary and so have a lot of the legislation that the government forced on people been unnecessary. Things would have progressed on their own and the end would have been the same without a lot of the bloodshed. Unfortunately we will never have a chance to see that. We are being told that our religion is wrong, but every filth that one wants to come up with is right. That is being legislated to us. It will destroy the United States. Now do you really want to get me started. I have a lot more I could say.
Can i say wow? I guess it is easy for the people who were not oppressed and treated like second class citizens to say things should have been left how it was back then.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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Why did he have to attack African-Americans at all? He could have achieve his goals without resorting to that. If he wasn't a racist (as you claimed).
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:37 PM
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Can i say wow? I guess it is easy for the people who were not oppressed and treated like second class citizens to say things should have been left how it is back then.

I have never oppressed anybody. And if you want to talk about how people have been mistreated just look at my ancestors the American Indian. You just forget about it, you shake off your shoes and you keep tucking. I don't need hand outs from the American people, I can make it fine on my own and I have made it fine on my own, by the grace of God. So it is time for all people to stop taking advantage of others, whether it is by living off the government, or telling your boss that this is not in your job description and making sure that you get privileged treatment while everybody else there has to work for the paycheck they get. It's making sure that you earn what you make plus a little more. I know this is not a popular idea with some, but I was brought up that way and so was Jesse Helms. I understand that he was one of the hardest working senators in the senate.

When you are the hardest working person, contributing the most, etc. You don't have to ask the government to make someone hire you, they will be beating down your door to get you to come work for them. I don't think a person like that would ever be considered a second class citizen. I know I never have.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:41 PM
 
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Why do I feel like everytime I read NCN's posts, I'm in some twisted version of Gone With the Wind?
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:53 PM
 
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Maybe because I am telling it like it is and you have the doctored up Northern version which is a lie.
Well sweetheart, take another sip of your mint julep & read up on some REAL news, you know, the truth about your good ole brother Helms? You might wanna sit down though for I fear you'll get the vapors.
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Old 07-11-2008, 03:07 PM
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Well sweetheart, take another sip of your mint julep & read up on some REAL news, you know, the truth about your good ole brother Helms? You might wanna sit down though for I fear you'll get the vapors.
I already know the real truth about Jesse Helms. I don't drink alcoholic beverages because I was brought up Baptist. I don't believe in murdering babies. Marriage should be between a man and a woman. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Those are some other truths. Have a good day and think about what you want this country to be. Try your best not to destroy what our forefathers have built. And people who have an open mind sometimes let too much trash in, causing contamination, so try not to be too open minded. Being right minded is much better.
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Old 07-11-2008, 03:22 PM
 
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You know there are gay Baptists who might drink and don't kill babies and don't like people immigrating here illegally.
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