Born that way? (votes, generation, thought, legal)

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by bchris02

Hypothetical question:

Say somebody had an inner desire to practice cannibalism. As naturally different species prefer to eat different types of meals, this person loved eating other people. He says he was born that way. In addition, cannibalism occurs in nature quite frequently. Does this justify it? Does this make cannibalism ok in our society?

Mutually agreed upon cannibalism? Weird, but fine (imo). There was that case in Germany a few years back where a cannibal sought out someone to cannibalize and a guy with a "being cannibalized" fantasy volunteered. The cannibal ate him. While I do think it's weird, these were two adults doing something mutually consensual. I'm not sure on what grounds I'd be able to find an issue with it as there is no victim.

[nitokenshi]

people who harp on homosexuality are secretly gay themselves.

[fierce_flawless]

Originally Posted by nitokenshi

people who harp on homosexuality are secretly gay themselves.

Well I have witnessed that. One of the most vocal homophobes I know came out a few years after I met him.

[fishmonger]

Homophobia is totally gay if you ask me. But it isn't if you don't ask me.

[chielgirl]

Fear in one's self and basic nature sometime leads to denial of the same in others. I've seen it, too.

[Roaddog]

Born that way? Nope

[Nomander]

Originally Posted by fierce_flawless

No, because cannibalism generally includes the violation of another's RIGHTS. The right to not be eaten. The right to not be killed for our flesh. The right to not have our remains desecrated in such a manner.

Regardless of if he was "born that way" or not, his rights end where mine begin.

Ok, a furtherance of the "rights" issue. Two topics.

1) Pedophila

In many cases of those who are born with a desire to commit this act, they have reasoned and it has in some circles shown that this person merely shows love and devotion to the child they seek. That in some cases, this child accepts them and sees these "sexual" acts as nothing more than an extension of that love.

Is this correct if the child accepts it? If for instance a 12 year old proclaims they do love the 40 year old guy that they are having sexual relations with. Is it normal? Is it acceptable if nobody is hurt and all parties agree? Think about it a while.


2) Bestiality

An owner loves their animal, shows devotion, well care and respect for their animal, yet they take part in sexual activity of the animal. The animal is not forced and willingly takes part in these activities without coaxing or force.

Is this correct and acceptable if both are consenting and no harm is committed to either parties? Think about this a while.

[Reads2MUCH]

Originally Posted by evolvement

He's just trying to instigate a conflict. I'm sure you can see that.

You are absolutely right. I had a feeling that was where the poster was headed from the beginning.

[fishmonger]

1) Pedophila

In many cases of those who are born with a desire to commit this act, they have reasoned and it has in some circles shown that this person merely shows love and devotion to the child they seek. That in some cases, this child accepts them and sees these "sexual" acts as nothing more than an extension of that love.

Is this correct if the child accepts it? If for instance a 12 year old proclaims they do love the 40 year old guy that they are having sexual relations with. Is it normal? Is it acceptable if nobody is hurt and all parties agree? Think about it a while.

Kids aren't old enough to make informed, intelligent decisions about a lot of things. Being molested or overly "loved" by pedophiles can leave them scarred for life.

2) Bestiality

An owner loves their animal, shows devotion, well care and respect for their animal, yet they take part in sexual activity of the animal. The animal is not forced and willingly takes part in these activities without coaxing or force.

Is this correct and acceptable if both are consenting and no harm is committed to either parties? Think about this a while.

Hmmmm... If the animal likes it and voluntarily participates, it's still really weird and gross and creepy but I wouldn't necessarily classify it as "evil."

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by Nomander

Ok, a furtherance of the "rights" issue. Two topics.

1) Pedophila

In many cases of those who are born with a desire to commit this act, they have reasoned and it has in some circles shown that this person merely shows love and devotion to the child they seek. That in some cases, this child accepts them and sees these "sexual" acts as nothing more than an extension of that love.

Is this correct if the child accepts it? If for instance a 12 year old proclaims they do love the 40 year old guy that they are having sexual relations with. Is it normal? Is it acceptable if nobody is hurt and all parties agree? Think about it a while.


2) Bestiality

An owner loves their animal, shows devotion, well care and respect for their animal, yet they take part in sexual activity of the animal. The animal is not forced and willingly takes part in these activities without coaxing or force.

Is this correct and acceptable if both are consenting and no harm is committed to either parties? Think about this a while.

Are either kids or animals in any position to legally grant consent? This is where age of consent laws come in and they take into account when a person is mature enough to understand the subject at hand and communicate their understanding, and thus legally grant consent.