Religious Nutcase Pharmacist Threaten Women's Health (Bush, Obama, votes, Iraq)

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

....this is my PERSONAL, NOT PROFESSIONAL opinoin.....this is a great thing. Those liberals and leftwing Obama types can stay in or move to Boston, New Jersey, Chicago, New York, and California....I don't think Middle America needs them.

You have a very naive opinion of what is going on in "Middle America".

Originally Posted by bbkaren

If it was a Muslim pharmacist nobody would be raising an eyebrow.

As my Brit friend would say "Too True"!

I didn't read through the whole thread, so this may be redundant. If so, I apologize.

I believe there are laws on the books allowing a pharmacist not to sell something s/he feels is "against their religion", but they are supposed to direct the patient to the nearest place that does see the medication in question. I have had job interviews as a nurse where I have been asked if can care for a patient getting an abortion. No one wants to hire someone who can't carry out the company's business. I think the employer and the potential employee have an obligation to clarify just what the job duties are before hiring or accepting a job. Someone like Tom Lennox should ask if he will be required to dispense BCP, Plan B, etc before working someplace.

[arod0331]

Religious beliefs or not, you have a job to do you do it or go work somewhere else.

Should a catholic hospital be able to turn away a heart attack victim because he's an atheist? They can always direct him to another hospital 40 miles away, right?

[norcalmom101]

And what about all the poor LDS bartenders? Do you even tip them, Mr. Lennox?

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by arod0331

Religious beliefs or not, you have a job to do you do it or go work somewhere else.

Should a catholic hospital be able to turn away a heart attack victim because he's an atheist? They can always direct him to another hospital 40 miles away, right?

No, but I agree with those who say that is a different issue. The atheist patient will have to abide by Catholic customs when in the Catholic hospital, e.g. a cross in the room, perhaps meatless Fridays in lent, etc. When I was in nursing school, we were taught you take care of the patient no matter what his/her lifestyle, political beliefs, etc. That is how nurses can justify serving in the military.

There are laws on the books that people do not have to participate in abortions, for example, if it is against their moral code. I think most would agree that reproductive issues are a little *different*.

[arod0331]

Originally Posted by Katiana

we were taught you take care of the patient no matter what his/her lifestyle, political beliefs, etc.

Yes, now why should pharmacists be exempt from this rule? Women should be able to get otc meds without being judged or being called a ****. The pharmacist doesn't know her situation, so it's unfair to judge her.
I think people would rather she'd get her plan b to prevent the sperm and egg from meeting rather than she go get an abortion or even worse end up like one of those who end up throwing her newborn in the trash.

[bbkaren]

[quote=Katiana;4388877]No, but I agree with those who say that is a different issue. The atheist patient will have to abide by Catholic customs when in the Catholic hospital, e.g. a cross in the room, perhaps meatless Fridays in lent, etc...QUOTE]

I gave birth in a Catholic hospital but afterward, had to go for a separate procedure for my tubal ligation at a different hospital (rather than having it done when I was cut open anyway for the birth). A pain, but what can you do?

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by arod0331

Yes, now why should pharmacists be exempt from this rule? Women should be able to get otc meds without being judged or being called a ****. The pharmacist doesn't know her situation, so it's unfair to judge her.
I think people would rather she'd get her plan b to prevent the sperm and egg from meeting rather than she go get an abortion or even worse end up like one of those who end up throwing her newborn in the trash.

A pharmacist is not exempt from this rule. That is one area where I disagree with Tom Lennox, particularly when he refers to women as "sluts", "whores", etc. It shouldn't matter when you are dispensing antibiotics, heart meds, etc, who the pt is or why they need them. But if it really is against the pharmacist's morals to give out Plan B, s/he shouldn't have to. A nurse cannot be required to participate in a tubal ligation, an abortion, etc if it is against her morals. This is the law in most states.

[Habsburg]

Originally Posted by Katiana

A pharmacist is not exempt from this rule. That is one area where I disagree with Tom Lennox, particularly when he refers to women as "sluts", "whores", etc. It shouldn't matter when you are dispensing antibiotics, heart meds, etc, who the pt is or why they need them. But if it really is against the pharmacist's morals to give out Plan B, s/he shouldn't have to. A nurse cannot be required to participate in a tubal ligation, an abortion, etc if it is against her morals. This is the law in most states.

Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's the right thing to do . Private pharmacies can adopt whatever practices they want, but it isn't the perogative of their employees to act differently, and the pharmacy should get on their case for it. Like if any salesman continually refuses to sell something to customers, the manager has the right to fire the employee.

[karfar]

What the heck did I just read from that Tom Lennox character? Did I miss something? Why would anyone have seen a picture of him on the internet, like we would even know who he is! Too weird.

[Barbie1964]

Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70

But others worry about what will happen if such pharmacies proliferate, especially in rural areas.

"We may find ourselves with whole regions of the country where virtually every pharmacy follows these limiting, discriminatory policies and women are unable to access legal, physician-prescribed medications," said R. Alta Charo, a University of Wisconsin lawyer and bioethicist. "We're talking about creating a separate universe of pharmacies that puts women at a disadvantage."
....this is my PERSONAL, NOT PROFESSIONAL opinoin.....this is a great thing. Those liberals and leftwing Obama types can stay in or move to Boston, New Jersey, Chicago, New York, and California....I don't think Middle America needs them.

So if the pharmacist doesn't like the gay lifestyle, he will withhold vital anti-viral drugs from HIV patients? So if the pharmacist doesn't like the lifestyle of an alcoholic that has become diabetic he will withhold insulin? So if the pharmacist doesn't like the lifestyle of the Atheist with cancer he will withhold chemotherapy drugs. When does it stop?