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I'll see your 10th Amendment and raise you a 14th Amendment.
Under the current scheme, if a 64-year old alcoholic needs a liver transplant, he gets one if and when a suitable donor is available, and if there is no one else on the waiting list.
If a 24-year old mother of two suddenly needs a liver transplant, she jumps ahead of the 64-year old alcoholic on the waiting list, even though he may have been waiting 2 years.
Hospitals are allowed to discriminate. If you're a current or former alcoholic, smoker, recreational drug user or a drug abuser, or you're "too old" then either you aren't eligible, or you wait a long time for a transplant.
Under a federally financed health care program, the 14th Amendment, Equality Under the Law, automatically kicks in. No more discrimination. If a 94 year old man who will only live 3 more months anyway is on the list, he gets the next available transplant, not the 24 year old mother of two.
I'd expect a whole flurry of legal actions to commence one a national health care program is in place.
But that's the point, a national healthcare program could never be put into place without first deliberately violating the US Constitution. The 14th Amendment would not apply since it would be unconstitutional to federalize healthcare to begin with. Thus, there could be no constitutional law involving healthcare that would be applied equally to everyone.
NO BODY is going in the medica field to make 70k,, when they can make that with a BS in accounting... NO BODY is going to have 200k in student loans to be making 70K paying 2,000 dollars a month in loans....
NO BODY is going to medical fields and for 4 year after college(studying 24/7 while you were drinking and having fun) then work in residency for 3 years(working 24 hours shifts and working 80 hours a week, while you were drinking every night and working 40 hours a week) then work in fellowship for 3 year more if they want to be more then a Internal Medicine or Family Practice(and again working about 70 hours a week and having night calls and beeper calls, while you already are out of college with 9 years or work experience and making more money then a fellowship 55k a year makes)....
WHO WILL DO ALL OF THIS IF AT THE END THEY WILL MAKE 10K MORE THEN RESIDENCY OR FELLOWSHIP, AND HAVE TO PAY 2,000 IN LOANS
Im wondering if they dont make you doctors jump thru too many hoops to become a doctor. This, and other things you have described to me have not fallen on deaf ears. This might be something you might not want to answer....but do as you feel. As a doctor, could you have learned the core things that give you the knowledge to practice medicine.....on fewer years of college, less residentcy, or any of the steps you had to go thru.
As the ax man, I dont think you needed latin or philosopy crap to be a doctor. What can we do for you that would make it easier for you to be a doctor ? Without you being unqualified to do your duty ?
I'll see your 10th Amendment and raise you a 14th Amendment.
Under the current scheme, if a 64-year old alcoholic needs a liver transplant, he gets one if and when a suitable donor is available, and if there is no one else on the waiting list.
If a 24-year old mother of two suddenly needs a liver transplant, she jumps ahead of the 64-year old alcoholic on the waiting list, even though he may have been waiting 2 years.
Hospitals are allowed to discriminate. If you're a current or former alcoholic, smoker, recreational drug user or a drug abuser, or you're "too old" then either you aren't eligible, or you wait a long time for a transplant.
Under a federally financed health care program, the 14th Amendment, Equality Under the Law, automatically kicks in. No more discrimination. If a 94 year old man who will only live 3 more months anyway is on the list, he gets the next available transplant, not the 24 year old mother of two.
I'd expect a whole flurry of legal actions to commence one a national health care program is in place.
Is not the hospital.. is a national list not a hospital list...
There is no extreme problem with their hospitals,
50% is not extreme??????
they are efficient and will be provided for.
no they wont....
The only problem I can see, is that for 10 bucks a night, people might want to move in and stay a while.
I would hire a CEO that cut 50% on waste, redundant jobs and bloated salaries,
who has a bloated salary????
and held profits to a minimum within the body of the company for the greater profit of the owner (Japanese healthcare consumer).
That is just a dream....
Im wondering if they dont make you doctors jump thru too many hoops to become a doctor.
They have reason why is a long career...
This, and other things you have described to me have not fallen on deaf ears. This might be something you might not want to answer....but do as you feel. As a doctor, could you have learned the core things that give you the knowledge to practice medicine.
No, you cant,, and that is why we have great doctors.. because of training...
....on fewer years of college, less residentcy, or any of the steps you had to go thru.
You study for 2 years all books, then you go 2 years of clinics.. this is the 4 years of medical school... you are a MD, but you dont have a lic. to practice.. then you have to pick your residency(Internal Medicine, Peds, Family medicine, etc) because internal medicine and peds are very different you need this extra years learning... Then comes fellowship if you want to be cardiologist or Heme/Onc, etc...
As the ax man, I dont think you needed latin or philosopy crap to be a doctor.
They dont theach latin any more,,,
What can we do for you that would make it easier for you to be a doctor ? Without you being unqualified to do your duty ?
I really dont know... once you get out of medicine you really dont have much experience and really dont know much of practice,, only in theory,, that is why you need the 3 more years of practice(residency). A lot of country you dont need a 4 years degree to get into medicine(the US doesnt need one either, only 90 premed credits) but almost nobody gets into medicine with only 90 credits...
Others country you go into medicine straight out of high school... but here we couldnt do it,, the reason the US doesnt want it,, is because it doesnt want 21 doctors going around. And medical school need the college degree to use for admission...
I guess "unqualified" is the key word, but find it hard to believe there isnt something we can chop in the education of a doctor. Saw a story the other day about nurses in some african country that were preforming operations after assisting a doctor in surgery for a couple years. Major doctor shortage there, it was very interesting, considering that the nurses had no formal training before assisting the doctor.
Just for amusement of the thread, suppose you needed a operation that the nurse in Nigeria had performed 50 times without error, with no formal education. And you had to choose between being operated on by her, or a US medical student doing it for the first time on a human ? Who would you pick, assuming the environment was the same for the operation ?
We wont even factor in, that the nurse would probably do it for $300, vs $10,000 for the med student.
Anyone who says that UHC cannot be done because it is unconstitutional, obviously has never heard of the "Bill of Rights". The Bill of Rights was 10 amendments that were inserted into the Constitution. There have been other amendments to the constitution and this does not mean "the end of the American Constitution". The constitution was designed so that changes can be made, as needed. Look at the age for voting. This has changed in the constitution over the years. As far as a UHC, here is a interesting view.
We must expand the Bill of Rights as embodied in the US Constitution to include the right to affordable universal health care. The time has come for the public to conclude that the right to universal health care is as important and necessary as the right to free speech and all the other beloved constitutional rights. Common sense says that health care is a right, not a privilege.
Anyone who says that UHC cannot be done because it is unconstitutional, obviously has never heard of the "Bill of Rights". The Bill of Rights was 10 amendments that were inserted into the Constitution. There have been other amendments to the constitution and this does not mean "the end of the American Constitution". The constitution was designed so that changes can be made, as needed. Look at the age for voting. This has changed in the constitution over the years. As far as a UHC, here is a interesting view.
The Constitution of the United States is the primary law of the land. The plans proposed, and their implementation, would be in violation of that Constitution. This is a FACT.
To do what has been proposed in this thread, would require severe changes to the Constitution including but not limited to, elimination of the Constitution.
It is OUR Constitution - not yours as you are not an American.
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