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Old 01-21-2007, 04:00 PM
 
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The liberals are out of their padded cells tonight ....

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Old 01-21-2007, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Orange County
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Texanborn, please don't interchange the term illegal immigrant or illegal alien for Mexican. While I understand that a vast majority of the illegal immigrant population hails from Mexico, not all Mexicans or Hispanics are illegal immigrants.

I find it to be incredibly offensive and revealing of your lack of discretion in regards to this topic. Thank you.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 09:15 PM
 
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I worked hard for everything I own, now all you see at the SS office is Mexicans lined up to get benefits for their anchor babies...Go to any ER at night and look at them lined up for free medical help...(they know they wont be turned away after hours for non emergencies)

I think you are living in never never land......
Here are excepts from an article in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (Spring 2005) concerning illegal alien's use of ERs:

[quote] Illegal Aliens and American Medicine

The influx of illegal aliens has serious hidden medical consequences.
What is unseen is their free medical care that has degraded and closed some of America's finest emergency medical facilities, and caused hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospitals are closing their doors. "Anchor babies" born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability Income.

What is seen is the illegal alien who .....is assumed healthy even though he and his illegal alien wife and children were never examined for contagious diseases.

..many illegal aliens harbor fatal diseases that American medicine fought and vanquished long ago, such as drug-resistant tuberculosis, malaria, leprosy, plague, polio, dengue, and Chagas disease.

EMTALA

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) requires every ED to treat anyone who enters with an "emergency," including cough, headache, hangnail, cardiac arrest, herniated lumbar disc, drug addiction, alcohol overdose, gunshot wound, automobile trauma, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-positive infection, mental problem, or personality disorder.

The definition of emergency is flexible and vague enough to include almost any condition. Any patient coming to a hospital ED requesting "emergency" care must be screened and treated until ready for discharge, or stabilized for transfer -whether or not insured, "documented," or able to pay. A woman in labor must remain to deliver her child.

The hospital must have specialists on call at all times for all departments that provide medical services and specialties within the hospital's capabilities. EMTALA is an unfunded federal mandate.

High-technology EDs have degenerated into free medical offices. Between 1993 and 2003, 60 California hospitals closed because half their services became unpaid. Another 24 California hospitals verge on closure. Even ambulances from Mexico come to American EDs with indigents because the drivers know that EMTALA requires accepting patients who come within 250 yards of a hospital.

Los Angeles County Trauma Care Network, built in 1983, was one of America's finest emergency medical response organizations. Consisting of 22 hospitals, state-of-the-art equipment, superior emergency physicians, surgeons, specialists, nurses, technicians, it offered 365-day, round-the-clock emergency care .... Now most trauma hospitals have left the network, and so have many emergency physicians and surgeons. EMTALA contributed to the Trauma Care Network's loss of focus and loss of money.

Illegal aliens perpetrate much violent crime, the results of which arrive at EDs. "Dump and run" patients, often requiring tracheotomy or thoracotomy for stab or gunshot wounds, are dropped on the hospital sidewalk or at the ED as the car speeds away. Even if the hospital is not exclusively dedicated to trauma care, EMTALA still governs treatment.

While most people coming to EDs throughout the United States are not poor and have medical insurance, cities such as Los Angeles with large illegal alien populations, high crime, and powerful immigrant gangs are losing their hospitals to the ravages of unpaid care under EMTALA. EMTALA rewards <illegal aliens> with extensive, expensive medical services, free of charge, if they claim an emergency need for care. Government welcomes illegal aliens by refusal to police our borders, by reluctance to prosecute people who violate basic American law, and by fervor to please those who abuse our generosity and cynically ply our compassion against us.

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf
 
Old 01-21-2007, 09:38 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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I've seen them come into middle class neighborhoods and destroy them...They don't seem to know what a bucket of paint is used for and you can tell by their houses....they don't know that you are supposed to water and cut grass in their yards....they think they are for parking rundown cars in....they bring crime and gangs into neighborhoods that I once walked the streets a night....now I wouldn't walk those streets unarmed...they think the backyard is a junkyard and not a place for kids to play.
I worked hard for everything I own, now all you see at the SS office is Mexicans lined up to get benefits for their anchor babies...Go to any ER at night and look at them lined up for free medical help...(they know they wont be turned away after hours for non emergencies)
WOW!! This is complete ignorance to the bone!
 
Old 01-21-2007, 09:39 PM
 
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Texanborn, please don't interchange the term illegal immigrant or illegal alien for Mexican. While I understand that a vast majority of the illegal immigrant population hails from Mexico, not all Mexicans or Hispanics are illegal immigrants.

I find it to be incredibly offensive and revealing of your lack of discretion in regards to this topic. Thank you.
It was the Mexicans themselves who chose to be called Mexican. This was to include the illegal aliens, as well as the legal immigrants.
Remember the movie titled, "A Day Without a Mexican"? This movie was made to teach America a lesson.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 09:47 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Remember the movie titled, "A Day Without a Mexican"? This movie was made to teach America a lesson.
There's also a movie called American History X, but didn't represent my opinions. Just because a movie was written and produced by a few folks, BY NO MEANS underlies what a whole population of legal, illegal, Mexican or not believe in.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Orange County
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Which Mexicans chose to label all illegal/legal immigrants as Mexicans? Mexican nationals are not too keen on being mistaken for Guatemalens, Nicaraguans, or any other 'lesser' Latino group. Regardless, that does not excuse the ignorance of many of the presumed well-educated, first-world American citizens on this forum. How would you feel if I used Redneck and American interchangeably? Great, you can empathize.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 10:00 PM
 
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WOW!! This is complete ignorance to the bone!
Really! This statement
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Go to any ER at night and look at them lined up for free medical help...(they know they wont be turned away after hours for non emergencies)
reflects complete ignorance to the bone?
 
Old 01-21-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Shallow alcove hidden from the telescreen
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WOW!! This is complete ignorance to the bone!
Second that! Not even worth responding to.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 10:03 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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The racism and ignorance displayed now, we'll cause our descendants to wonder why they are continously distributed a racist label for being a Caucasian American.
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