Black in America (security, cocaine, drugs, American)

[Heaveno]

Originally Posted by uglyblackjohn

While racist, the statement is still true. Not compared to whites or any other ethnic group but compared to how well we Blacks could be doing. Asians were called ignorant by racists 100yrs ago. They turned a stereotype around by succeeding. We need to do the same.

The poster's statement may be true, but that is not the topic being discussed. How does one stay focused on the subject and how is the response relevant to what we are speaking on. He/She simply said, "What are you complaining about?" My earlier response is that the salary distribution is not equitable, and this is the reply I should get??? Once again his response/comment/derogatory statement meant to incite anger-which he will not get from me- is white guilt in its greatest form. If I have told you numerous times that I know the dysfunctional behaviors of my race, then why would one insist on speaking about them to me when it is not significant to the subject matter being discussed?

The poster's comments speaks volumes of something has gone weary!!!

[bbkaren]

Originally Posted by Heaveno

...The poster's comments speaks volumes of something has gone weary!!!

Could you please rephrase this sentence? I don't understand it. Thanks!

[uglyblackjohn]

Heaveno - I didn't know how to isolate only part of the comment. I wasn't refering to his comment "What are you complaining about".
I just read your OP and meant to comment on that.

[jlhct]

Originally Posted by Motion

Did anyone catch the panel discussion on CNN? The lady from the Chicago Urban League pointed out that an increase in Black entreprenurship is a big solution to Black poverty problems. This is the main way Blacks can benefit from our $700 Billion in spending power, build wealth and create jobs for ourselves.

I missed that part, but I recorded it to watch later.

I did see some of the part about HIV/AIDS with Sheryl Lee Ralph, T.D. Jakes and the other woman (name escapes me right now)

Sheryl was saying how things have to be talked about regarding AIDS and not shyed away from. I think T.D. Jakes was shying away from it a bit because of the homosexual angle. I guess the church is caught between a rock & a hard place, but I don't think things will get better until those issues are addressed, and talked about it in the church. T.D. Jakes did mention that the church was a billboard to the community, but from what they were discussing it seems to be a filtered billboard.

[JHusseinMoore]

Jakes needs to get a grip. Does he really think there aren't gay Christians, when the choir director is probably wearing a better Easter hat than my grandmother?

[BilleeBob]

Originally Posted by MissShona

What?! Are you serious?! I am Black and have a large family, and no one in my family smokes crack.

Oh, you must have dealers in your family. Most dealers don't smoke the stuff.

Good for you.

I know some White people who smoke crack though.

Oh, you know whites who smoke crack but you don't know any blacks who do?

Hilarious!

Just as many Hispanic children are born out of wedlock.

Wrong. Go dig up some facts and get back to us. You'll find that blacks born out of wedlock is around 70% while hispanics are around 50%.


This info is readily available, but maybe blacks don't know how to use a search engine.....

I won't even respond to the rest of that post because it is just insanely ridiculous. OMG!

Good thing, you just saved yourself further embarrassment.

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by Heaveno

I am not speaking to the subculture of some Black Americans. I am speaking to nurses who have the credentials and the experience and not being paid fairly in the institutions in which they are employed. I am not speaking to those in the subculture who are not relevant to the topic being discussed.

It would do you good along with many others to cease speaking about others in the race that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. It is so stale and apparent that you actually believe that speaking about the subculture and their behaviors will disrupt the topic that is currently being discussed. Where is the logic in speaking about the subculture? How do you think this way?? Inquiring and intellectual minds would like to know!!

Get over yourself. This is a discussion board. You telling people that they shouldn't post is rather bothersome.

[BigJon3475]

Originally Posted by JHusseinMoore

I think you need to do the research on race and drug use. Drug addicts are largely white.

According to the federal Household Survey, "most current illicit drug users are white. There were an estimated 9.9 million whites (72 percent of all users), 2.0 million blacks (15 percent), and 1.4 million Hispanics (10 percent) who were current illicit drug users in 1998." And yet, blacks constitute 36.8% of those arrested for drug violations, over 42% of those in federal prisons for drug violations. African-Americans comprise almost 58% of those in state prisons for drug felonies; Hispanics account for 20.7%.

Source: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Summary Report 1998 (Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, 1999), p. 13; Bureau of Justice Statistics, Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics 1998 (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, August 1999), p. 343, Table 4.10, p. 435, Table 5.48, and p. 505, Table 6.52; Beck, Allen J., Ph.D. and Mumola, Christopher J., Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 1998 (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, August 1999), p. 10, Table 16; Beck, Allen J., PhD, and Paige M. Harrison, US Dept. of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice, August 2001), p. 11, Table 16.

Drug War Facts: Race, Prison, and the Drug Laws

Cops don't look so much for users as they do for dealers.

I wonder where selling drugs is glorified....

I'll answer for you...rap music.

Doesn't make it right....but it explains the numbers.

All one needs to do is look at how rich Master P got on selling albums....What was one of the biggest hits...."Make crack like this"....Heck he even told you how to make it in the song.

This doesn't mean rock/alternative and other music venues don't talk about drugs.....It's just not as bragged about.....they don't glorify it.

[BilleeBob]

Originally Posted by JHusseinMoore

I think you need to do the research on race and drug use. Drug addicts are largely white.

[i]According to the federal Household Survey, "most current illicit drug users are white. There were an estimated 9.9 million whites (72 percent of all users), 2.0 million blacks (15 percent), and 1.4 million Hispanics (10 percent) who were current illicit drug users in 1998." And yet, blacks constitute 36.8% of those arrested for drug violations, over 42% of those in federal prisons for drug violations. African-Americans comprise almost 58% of those in state prisons for drug felonies; Hispanics account for 20.7%.


Drug War Facts: Race, Prison, and the Drug Laws

We are talking about crack, a drug that is predominantly used by blacks.


"When the U.S. Sentencing Commission looked at drug sentences in 1995, almost 90 percent of federal crack offenders were black."


Crack Down - philadelphia weekly online

[MissShona]

Originally Posted by BilleeBob

Oh, you must have dealers in your family. Most dealers don't smoke the stuff.

Good for you.





Oh, you know whites who smoke crack but you don't know any blacks who do?

Hilarious!





Wrong. Go dig up some facts and get back to us. You'll find that blacks born out of wedlock is around 70% while hispanics are around 50%.


This info is readily available, but maybe blacks don't know how to use a search engine.....




Good thing, you just saved yourself further embarrassment.

Um no....not embarrassed at all.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_06.pdf

I posted about this before; the only mistake I made is that the out-of-wedlock rate for Native American women was very close to black women (refer to the first page only if you are not able to read the whole thing).