Canada's crime rate drops to 30-year low; homicide down 3% (security, legal, stats)

[pstratt]

"Criminals will always have guns, the harder you make it for honest people to own guns, the more vulnerable you make them."

Not true.

[mackinac81]

Canada had a crime rate?! That alone is news

[t206]

Originally Posted by pstratt

"Criminals will always have guns, the harder you make it for honest people to own guns, the more vulnerable you make them."

Not true.

So...the shooting at Virginia Tech, the Mall Shooting in Omaha, Columbine and all of the other school shootings...what do they all have in common? Not even the security guards in these places were armed.

These criminals KNEW that they wouldnt face any resistance and could kill at will until the police showed up. Pathetic.

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by pstratt

You have to buy beer at The Beer Store and it closes at like 10 pm, even on weekends. Talk about a lack of freedom! Just kidding, but not really.

Not here. beer and liquor stores are open 7 days a week, but they close at eleven

Gun ownership here is regulated, but I would have no problem buying and owning any gun that is not fully automatic...They are restricted.

Any other freedoms you think we do not have?

[pstratt]

What do they all have in common? Ummm...the fact that these psychos had access to automatic weapons and pistols? I don't remember any of these incidents happening in Canada, so you just made my point for me. Look I'm not anti-gun, I just don't see the need for anyone to own an uzi.

Even if the rent-a-cops were armed I highly doubt they would have done anything. In fact I think they would have soiled themselves and ran the other way.

[t206]

Originally Posted by pstratt

What do they all have in common? Ummm...the fact that these psychos had access to automatic weapons and pistols? I don't remember any of these incidents happening in Canada, so you just made my point for me. Look I'm not anti-gun, I just don't see the need for anyone to own an uzi.

Even if the rent-a-cops were armed I highly doubt they would have done anything. In fact I think they would have soiled themselves and ran the other way.

Yeah, "pshcyos" will always get their hands on guns, so there is nothing to gain in putting incredibly strict regulations on them. It is a simple fact, the black market for them and crime related to obtaining them will SKYROCKET.

What point of yours did I prove?
CTV.ca | Student killed in Montreal shooting rampage

[bbkaren]

I don't recall any of those mass murders used an uzi, or even an automatic weapon?

I have no problem with gun criminals being punished as severely as possible.

I'm just tired of law abiding citizens being denied the right to defend themselves and their families.

[sanspeur]

We have our share of mass shootings, but mostly they involve the drug gangs.

Canada has had school shootings, but they have been much less common, and the outpouring of rage and disbelief has prompted the country's legislators to react. After Marc Lépine killed 14 women at École Polytechnique in Montreal in 1989, the federal government passed gun-control legislation that may have helped limit the carnage last September when Kimveer Gill took semi-automatic weapons into Dawson College, also in Montreal, and killed one student. Mr. Lépine used a gun that could fire 30 bullets, but the 1991 law that followed his attack limited most rifles to five rounds of ammunition, and handguns to 10 rounds.

globeandmail.com: A mass shooting at school, yet again

[t206]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

We have our share of mass shootings, but mostly they involve the drug gangs.

Canada has had school shootings, but they have been much less common, and the outpouring of rage and disbelief has prompted the country's legislators to react. After Marc Lépine killed 14 women at École Polytechnique in Montreal in 1989, the federal government passed gun-control legislation that may have helped limit the carnage last September when Kimveer Gill took semi-automatic weapons into Dawson College, also in Montreal, and killed one student. Mr. Lépine used a gun that could fire 30 bullets, but the 1991 law that followed his attack limited most rifles to five rounds of ammunition, and handguns to 10 rounds.

globeandmail.com: A mass shooting at school, yet again

You still have a situation of one person with a gun, simply over powering a helpless group of people. Yes, less bullets in one gun helps, but it has not eliminated the problem.

Think what would happen if one of these idiots tried this and got shot to death by a security guard or armed citizen...that element of surprise would seriously make people reconsider doing such a thing.

[pstratt]

Ok so there have been incidents in Canada. You got me there. There are crazies in every country. How are you being denied the right to defend your family though? You can't own a weapon where you live? Please help me understand.