Canada's crime rate drops to 30-year low; homicide down 3% (thought, drugs, stats)

[lionking]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

Where do you see me coming down on anyone's choice? I don't think gun restrictions are effective. There has to be other factors for the homicide rate differences. Not every homicide involves a gun you know.

My mistake,I must have interpreted it wrong.It was the line "why would you need a Uzi" that threw me off.



My opinion is it is nobodies business why someone needs a Uzi as long as they don't commit a crime with it but if someone needs a justification here is one.........

Ammo prices have skyrocketed but a UZI which fires 9mm is still reasonably priced ammo so a UZI is good for a firearm you can shoot and practice with all day without wiping out your wallet.

[bbkaren]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

... Saskatchewan ( go on say it...I know you wanna..LOL) a very sparsely populated province.

I am clueless what you mean--I know the name is a mouthful but I've certainly seen worse!

[t206]

Originally Posted by pstratt

t206 white border,

You keep going back to the point of an innocent group of people being gunned down and how if they or a security guard were armed it wouldn't happen or at least be contained. I disagree with this, any of us could go to any crowded place and do the same thing these cowards did at any time and while someone might eventually take us down with a weapon, it would be too late. And if everyone is armed how are the cops going to recognize who the real shooter is when they do show up? They just might shoot you and ask questions later.


Yeah sorry for the confusion... I was responding to you and the other guy in the same post.

Well the good thing is we are allowed to disagree then...I myself though wouldnt want to make a law based on "what if the cops didnt do their job correctly"

P.S. - Yes, t206 white borders..t205 are gold.

[pstratt]

t206,

True enough. What a great country.

PS...you collect? I have a near complete t206(minus the big 4 of course) and am close on t207 brown borders. Never cared for t205, though I do have a few of them.

[t206]

Originally Posted by pstratt

t206,

True enough. What a great country.

PS...you collect? I have a near complete t206(minus the big 4 of course) and am close on t207 brown borders. Never cared for t205, though I do have a few of them.

Thats awesome, I am very jealous.

I kind of like the t205s just because they are so hard to come across with the gold border not flaking off.

[tablemtn]

Gun politics are beside the issue in an important way, which is to say, they aren't going to change. Reducing crime means working within the existing framework of society and law. Urban vs. rural isn't the issue, either, since Toronto is a gigantic metro area of 6 million people, and yet somehow manages to pull off a 2.2 per 100,000 homicide rate.

[t206]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

Gun politics are beside the issue in an important way, which is to say, they aren't going to change. Reducing crime means working within the existing framework of society and law. Urban vs. rural isn't the issue, either, since Toronto is a gigantic metro area of 6 million people, and yet somehow manages to pull off a 2.2 per 100,000 homicide rate.

I've been to Toronto and people are just nicer there...I think that has more to do with it than the number of or type of guns available.

[doubbltunman]

One race makes up 13% of the population, but have over 50% of the homicides.

Table 43 - Crime in the United States 2006


http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

Most drug related crime is caused not by a drug crazed maniac-25%
Most drug related crime is caused by the dealers-75%
Even though millions of Americans use illegal drugs, some recreation, some hard habit, less illegal drug users end up in the hospital compared to prescription drug users-hard fact.

Let's take a kilo of cocaine. In Columbia it costs $300-500. Once that cocaine gets to America-$30,000-50,000+. Once that kilo is broken down and gets to the street-$100's of thousands.

If the govt. took control of it, set hard laws, as not sharing the dope with anyone not registered with the govt-10 yr. sentence, also prove habit by multiple dirty urines that they are in fact a drug user before "registered".
That same drug user who is going to use anyway could get their "fix" with $10 of coke taxed from the govt. instead of breaking in my house trying to find $150.00 or better to buy their nightly fix, and with the dealers out of business there would be no more turf murders.

The profits and taxing of such drugs then would fund Rehabs free of charge for whoever asks for it.

The war on drugs? A war, either two things happen, win or lose. This war will go on and on with neither. You can do multiple of searches on You Tube and other site and watch videos of seasoned retired officers saying legalization is better than what we have now.

I in no way shape or form condone drug use, I would bet $1,000,000 that crime-across the board-would drop by 60% in a week in America if legalized. I do not gamble either.

[t206]

Originally Posted by doubbltunman

One race makes up 13% of the population, but have over 50% of the homicides.

Table 43 - Crime in the United States 2006


http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf

Most drug related crime is caused not by a drug crazed maniac-25%
Most drug related crime is caused by the dealers-75%
Even though millions of Americans use illegal drugs, some recreation, some hard habit, less illegal drug users end up in the hospital compared to prescription drug users-hard fact.

Let's take a kilo of cocaine. In Columbia it costs $300-500. Once that cocaine gets to America-$30,000-50,000+. Once that kilo is broken down and gets to the street-$100's of thousands.

If the govt. took control of it, set hard laws, as not sharing the dope with anyone not registered with the govt-10 yr. sentence, also prove habit by multiple dirty urines that they are in fact a drug user before "registered".
That same drug user who is going to use anyway could get their "fix" with $10 of coke taxed from the govt. instead of breaking in my house trying to find $150.00 or better to buy their nightly fix, and with the dealers out of business there would be no more turf murders.

The profits and taxing of such drugs then would fund Rehabs free of charge for whoever asks for it.

The war on drugs? A war, either two things happen, win or lose. This war will go on and on with neither. You can do multiple of searches on You Tube and other site and watch videos of seasoned retired officers saying legalization is better than what we have now.

I in no way shape or form condone drug use, I would bet $1,000,000 that crime-across the board-would drop by 60% in a week in America if legalized. I do not gamble either.

Awesome post. Clear and to the point.

[kanhawk]

Let the US export 30 million blacks and 30 million Hispanics to Canada and see how long their murder rate stays at 1.8. It's a silly comparison when Canada doesn't have the racial makeup with all the gang activity that comes with it that the US has.