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"Okay, I made a similar point in another thread when people were saying because of Bush, we have not had another 9/11. If you can't judge whether his policies are bad in the short-term, you can't judge whether they are good in the short-term and that they have prevented anything."
I'm willing to accept this argument, but why does it seem like some are almost hoping for another attack just so they can say Bush failed us once again. I understand you lost a tough a election in 2000 and will hold a grudge forever, but this attitude that Bush has never done anything is beyond the realm of possibility. I mean I hated Slick Willy and his wife, but I didn't disagree with EVERYTHING they did. It's not rational thinking and it's bad for the country as a whole. George Washington said that partisan politics would be the end of us and I'm starting to think he was spot on.
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"Okay, I made a similar point in another thread when people were saying because of Bush, we have not had another 9/11. If you can't judge whether his policies are bad in the short-term, you can't judge whether they are good in the short-term and that they have prevented anything."
I'm willing to accept this argument, but why does seem like some are almost hoping for another attack just so they can say Bush failed us once again. I understand you lost a tough a election in 2000 and will hold a grudge forever, but this attitude that Bush has never done anything is beyond the realm of possibility. I mean I hated Slick Willy and his wife, but I didn't disagree with EVERYTHING they did. It's not rational thinking and it's bad for the country as a whole. George Washington said that partisan politics would be the end of us and I'm starting to think he was spot on.
I agree that there are extremes on both sides. I don't wish another attack while Bush is in office nor do I hope for one if Obama wins which some have actually "guaranteed" would happen on other threads. The fact is, history won't truly be written on Clinton, Bush, etc. for years to come.
You have no argument. All you can do in your haplessly partisan reaction to the broad landscapes of social and economic rubble that this administration and its persistently myopic supporters are responsible for is retreat into the claim that it's too soon to tell. Sure, everything from one horizon to the other looks like crap today, but just wait 20 or 30 or 50 years. Maybe things will be better then. That's all you've got, and it's the very definition of transparent lameness and lack of responsibility. The people who voted to put this group of bunglers into office and then, incredibly, voted to keep them there owe this country one massive and very public apology for the damage that has been done. But no one will be losing any sleep waiting up for that. All we really expect from you is a continuation of the same hollow sort of superficial, prefabricated rhetoric that helped get us into this situation to begin with. That sort of thing is about all the right-wing can really be counted on to come up with. If you want the sort of actual knowledge, substance, and analysis from which sound policy can ultimately be developed, you'll simply have to look elsewhere...
What social rubble are you speaking of and where can I go to seek this unbiased knowledge and analysis you mention? It seems to me this country was divided before GW ever took office.
Considering that congress has an even lower approval rating than bush and she is the leader of congress whats that say about her? Her congress that won on a platform of reform and change. Less waste, fix the oil crisis, and immigration reform and yet they have accomplished nothing. Worst congress rating in history and deservedly so. So I guess it takes a total failure to know one because she and her fellow congress and senate people are total failures also.
Her idea of immigration reform is giving amnesty to the illegals and everything else she can do for them to make there stay in our country more comfortable!
She is an IDIOT! Yes their 9% rating says it all!
"Okay, I made a similar point in another thread when people were saying because of Bush, we have not had another 9/11. If you can't judge whether his policies are bad in the short-term, you can't judge whether they are good in the short-term and that they have prevented anything."
I'm willing to accept this argument, but why does it seem like some are almost hoping for another attack just so they can say Bush failed us once again. I understand you lost a tough a election in 2000 and will hold a grudge forever, but this attitude that Bush has never done anything is beyond the realm of possibility. I mean I hated Slick Willy and his wife, but I didn't disagree with EVERYTHING they did. It's not rational thinking and it's bad for the country as a whole. George Washington said that partisan politics would be the end of us and I'm starting to think he was spot on.
Because they are bitter and angry so he is blamed for everything! Clinton let things be ignored that has hurt us but not during his Presidency but Bush's and he gets by squeaky clean I just don't understand it. Put blame where blame is due no matter who is in office! If Clinton has some manhood he would have done something about the terrorist when he had the chance. Instead of chasing tail!
Seriously, as a former Democrat, all I can say is, "Nancy, give Congress' ineptness and inaction during your stewardship of same, you don't have much room to talk."
The sort that would be readily apparent in such locales as Iraq, or New Orleans, or our unemployment offices, or our welfare offices, or our hospital emergency rooms, or our lakes and forests, or our grocery stores, or our gas stations, or in middle and lower-income neighborhoods located almost anywhere. But maybe you've never been to any of those places.
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...and where can I go to seek this unbiased knowledge and analysis you mention?
Here's one hint -- maybe start out by abandoning all disinformation media outlets and consulting instead with a few of those ivory tower and other elites who are reportedly so out of touch with mainstream America. There was a time when the expertise amassed by experts was actually valued over the tripe spilt out by political hacks. Perhaps there was a reason for that...
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It seems to me this country was divided before GW ever took office.
Brilliant, even if irrelevant. There were so-called patriots and so-called loyalists a long time ago. But the more recent division I was just speaking of was between those who have been persistently and consistently wrong and those who have not.
Guess what thats because the DEMs and the Repub in aoofice are the same beast, just a different rhetoric.
Pelosi is as big a failure as Bush by any measure. Just what has she and her fellows done of merit or note? Nothing....
It would be one thing if they passed laws and Bush vetoed anything they put accross his desk, but they are literally doing nothing.
Considering that congress has an even lower approval rating than bush and she is the leader of congress whats that say about her? Her congress that won on a platform of reform and change. Less waste, fix the oil crisis, and immigration reform and yet they have accomplished nothing. Worst congress rating in history and deservedly so. So I guess it takes a total failure to know one because she and her fellow congress and senate people are total failures also.
Exactly, actually they have no room for "pointing the finger" it's as much their problem with America as it is the President...
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