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Old 01-24-2007, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Small patch of terra firma
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As fary as the "bully" image, I'll offer these as counter claims.
Granted there were those that did view the US government as a bully but the general consensus was not that the American administration was a bully like it is viewed now.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:44 AM
 
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Have you read the 9/11 commission reports or remember anything from that era? Clinton was focused on terrorism but it was the republicans in the house who focused on interns and stained dresses, and the weak media followed. However under clinton we had a much better image overseas. We didnt have the "bully" image.
Sorry, but if Clinton had been doing his job instead of the intern and many other women HE might have been able to see beyond HIS weak body part. Not too say being unfaithful to his WIFE in the WHITE HOUSE. He wasn't just and ordinary man having and affair.
If you are bouncing that many women around and trying to keep it from your wife what brain power do you have left to do anything else.
Sure, most over seas thought we put to much into the PRESIDENT having MANY affairs.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:47 AM
 
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That's true we weren't in Iraq during those attacks. But since we've been in Iraq it's created more terrorist than ever before, and they hate us more than ever. Bush has made us a lot of enemies with his Rambo tactics, his my way or no way attitude don't always work out very good....the man is hard headed.
I'm wondering if these people hated US anyways and President Bush brought it to light. Most of the countries that didn't like us just feel that now they can be more vocal.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I'm wondering if these people hated US anyways and President Bush brought it to light. Most of the countries that didn't like us just feel that now they can be more vocal.

This could very well be, we have had our share of problems with other countries long before Bush went to Washington that's for sure. If these people only disliked us or actually hated us I don't know, I think the hate really shows now. His approach on different things have angered many people, not only in other countries but here as well. His John Wayne, Rambo style of approaches are not the answer for everything IMO.


I remember his famous words " well bring it on " that's one of the most stupidest things I've heard him say, this would sound ok if you were in a bar brawl, lol. I don't think the man can keep a level head under pressure, he let's anger over ride common sense. He needs to realize he's not at Burger King, he can't have everything his way all the time. He gets really pi$$ed off when people disagree with him.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Small patch of terra firma
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Sorry, but if Clinton had been doing his job instead of the intern and many other women HE might have been able to see beyond HIS weak body part. Not too say being unfaithful to his WIFE in the WHITE HOUSE. He wasn't just and ordinary man having and affair.
If you are bouncing that many women around and trying to keep it from your wife what brain power do you have left to do anything else.
Sure, most over seas thought we put to much into the PRESIDENT having MANY affairs.
He was doing his job and the republican majority in the house felt it was better to focus on a stained dress and millions of dollars on an unnecessary investgation over an affair. But the republicans are supposed to the party that is strong on national security? Give me a break, they didnt see the problem then, when clinton did, and they fail to understand the problem now.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:38 AM
 
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I'm wondering if these people hated US anyways and President Bush brought it to light. Most of the countries that didn't like us just feel that now they can be more vocal.
I'm not sure if you've ever had the benefit of travelling to another country. I have travelled to many different destinations and although there are those who hate "americans", there seem to be many more who hate the government of america but know that they dont speak for all the people. So while they may not like our current administration, that doesnt mean they hate americans. Bush turned more people off towards our government. That's true.
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:23 PM
 
Location: on an island
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I'm not sure if you've ever had the benefit of travelling to another country. I have travelled to many different destinations and although there are those who hate "americans", there seem to be many more who hate the government of america but know that they dont speak for all the people. So while they may not like our current administration, that doesnt mean they hate americans. Bush turned more people off towards our government. That's true.
It sure is true.
We've been lucky enough to travel and have heard negativity towards our President but never towards us.
The USA's reputation is far worse now than it was before Mr. Bush took over.
That's one of the reasons people overseas are so vocal about it.
We once had a more open society, but I am afraid those days are over.
Certainly there are people out there who hate us and want us dead--more than ever, now. Sending troops hither, there and yonder around the planet makes no sense to me.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:35 PM
 
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It's funny most in congress were for the war before they were against it.
Keep in mind that most of those who were AGAINST the war from the start were Democrats. Speaker of the House Pelosi was one of them -- she voted against the war from the very beginning. I'm glad she has the position she has because she has every right to be critical of a President who doesn't bother to consider all sides of an issue.

The Republicans in the Senate and Congress have been absolutely pathetic since 2000 when Bush was elected. They have done nothing but RUBBERSTAMP everything he has put before them. Do they even think? Or are they simply mindless robots? We don't need to be paying salaries for this kind of mindless government! This isn't "Unity" -- it's idiocy at the highest level. It's "being a team player."

Sometimes, you don't need a bunch of team players. Sometimes you need some people who aren't afraid to go against the tide and actually do what they believe.

I'm really kind of appalled with our government.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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The Republicans in the Senate and Congress have been absolutely pathetic since 2000 when Bush was elected. They have done nothing but RUBBERSTAMP everything he has put before them. Do they even think? Or are they simply mindless robots? We don't need to be paying salaries for this kind of mindless government! This isn't "Unity" -- it's idiocy at the highest level. It's "being a team player."
It's called being afraid of having their campaign donations from the likes of human vomit like Hugh Hewitt cut off and going to their primary competition instead.

Our government is so bought it isn't even funny. It's actually very sad.
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