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Old 01-22-2007, 10:45 PM
 
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WWII started in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. The U.S. didn't enter the war until Dec. 8, 1941 after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
You didnt get the big picture. Think of the volume of people that came to North America from all over the world after the revolutionary war. Who's to say that if those people didnt immigrate here, that they stayed in their own country or throughout Europe. It's possible that some of those immigrants could have a major influence in events that changed the course of conflicts between the European nations. So WWI never happened, so WWII never happened. The world is not a vacuum, it is dynamic and you change one item then it affects all other settings and your results are dramatically different.

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Old 01-23-2007, 12:28 AM
 
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You didnt get the big picture. Think of the volume of people that came to North America from all over the world after the revolutionary war. Who's to say that if those people didnt immigrate here, that they stayed in their own country or throughout Europe. It's possible that some of those immigrants could have a major influence in events that changed the course of conflicts between the European nations. So WWI never happened, so WWII never happened. The world is not a vacuum, it is dynamic and you change one item then it affects all other settings and your results are dramatically different.
In the 18th and 19th century the European nations were always battling each other, but most wars were decided with two or three major battles, perhaps a decisive naval battle, and then ended until 10 years later where another one started. Wars were just too expensive and logisticaly difficult. With the colonization of the frontiers the European colonial powers would have grown richer, they would have been able to fund their wars, and the stakes for riches and power would have been higher. The concept of "total war", the war for survival with mass casualties, could very well have developed in the late 1800's. Imagine the battles of Napolean fought in Tennessee. A world war of some sorts would have developed, just earlier, and maybe fought in the new world.

And a note on slavery. It was convenient for England to end slavery, I think, as there country and economy was not as reliant on agriculture as the southern colonies of the U.S. were. England was becoming an industrial power. I suspect that, if America remained under British colonial rule, that they would have permitted slavery to remain into the late 1800's. I believe the Dutch allowed slavery to remain in it's south american colonies.

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