revolutionary war (Mexican, legal, independence, Maine)

[robin01]

I was watching the Patriot with Mel Gibson and the movie made me wonder how do you think the world would be different if America had lost the Revolutionary War ? Do you think we would have tried to win independance again?

[Marks]

Originally Posted by robin01

I was watching the Patriot with Mel Gibson and the movie made me wonder how do you think the world would be different if America had lost the Revolutionary War ? Do you think we would have tried to win independance again?

Most likely. They were brave men, not like us today.

[Steve-o]

Id say 'yes' to your question. I dont think there would be a doubt in my mind that we wouldnt have tried to kick the king out again. Heck, they tried to tackle us again, didnt take as well for them the 2nd time around either.

[FistFightingHairdresser]

There sure would have been a revolution, it just would have taken place in 1833 instead of 1776.

I leave it to you to figure out why.

[Dd714]

Originally Posted by robin01

I was watching the Patriot with Mel Gibson and the movie made me wonder how do you think the world would be different if America had lost the Revolutionary War ? Do you think we would have tried to win independance again?

Good question, the key there is "world", not just America. People forget, the American revolution brought on changes to the world that have never been seen before, a great experiment - the end of the monarchies and the beginning of constitutional republics. If America had lost the Revolutionary War then probably there would not have been any French Revolution soon after, no Mexican revolution, no eventual Canadian independence, no Brazilian independence, etc.
History would run it's course in due time and all the "colonies" would eventualy get there independence, possibly peacefully, maybe as a result of a world war involving the colonial powers (such as, after WW2, England, France, the Dutch finally gave independence to it's wide spread colonies in Africa and Asia). But this would have been 100 years, 150 years later, after the colonial powers explored and settled the frontier. U.S. would probably be broken out between all it's former colonial divisions and be 4 or more different countries - The former british colonies in the northeast would be one country, former spanish colonies in the southwest would be another, former french colonies in the south up to the midwest, another.
It would be a totally different world.

[Six Foot Three]

Also would there have been a world power to stop Hitler and the Third Reich and Tojo and Imperial Japan from conquering the world then problably attacking each other.....

[madicarus2000]

chaos theory, all these conclusions are dependent on the initial conditions. If there were no US, who's to say there would have been a WWII? Or maybe the Ottoman empire would have remained? The world could be anything. Maybe slavery would still be acceptable and legal? Who knows, the fact is the US became a big player in world affairs and so if it was gone, who knows what events would have still transpired.

[plaidmom]

Looks like this could go on a bit...shall I put the kettle on?

[WazzuCoop21]

Originally Posted by madicarus2000

chaos theory, all these conclusions are dependent on the initial conditions. If there were no US, who's to say there would have been a WWII? Or maybe the Ottoman empire would have remained? The world could be anything. Maybe slavery would still be acceptable and legal? Who knows, the fact is the US became a big player in world affairs and so if it was gone, who knows what events would have still transpired.

This is quite accurate. There is no way to predict what would or wouldn't have happen, had what is now the US actually be split into 4 dinstinctly different countries or something along those lines. There wouldn't be slavery most likely because it was abolished by the British crown and in her commonwealths a few years before we abolished it in the US. Basically, there is no way to know how history would have played out except to think that most of the larger colonial powers (England, Spain, etc) would remain much more powerful and influential then they are currently in the world...

[rdbeard5]

Originally Posted by madicarus2000

If there were no US, who's to say there would have been a WWII?

WWII started in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. The U.S. didn't enter the war until Dec. 8, 1941 after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Originally Posted by FistFightingHairdresser

There sure would have been a revolution, it just would have taken place in 1833 instead of 1776.

I leave it to you to figure out why.

My guess would be because the English Parliament passed the Slavery Abolition Act in 1833 which gave slaves their freedom throughout the British Empire. I don't think the Colonies would have taken too kindly to this.