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Old 01-26-2007, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Haddington, E. Lothian, Scotland
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I agree with Redwings... See, you are confused. The southern states were part of the constitution as well. The Constitution provides for the rights of the states and they challenged that. Both fought in a war and the war was fought in the south as to not mess up the north. MEmbers of the southern military were killed to. What Redwings is saying is that peopel are confused about why the war was started in the first place...and that's true. You are snowballing what he said.
You are wrong. The Constitution provided mechanisms for redress. The Confederates chose war.

The Confederacy rejected the US constitution and KILLED American soldiers. They were the enemy, no matter who apologizes for them.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:17 PM
 
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You are wrong. The Constitution provided mechanisms for redress. The Confederates chose war.

The Confederacy rejected the US constitution and KILLED American soldiers. They were the enemy, no matter who apologizes for them.
Stick to Scottland history or fighting hairdressers and leave the history to us. The Confederacy were sticking up for the rights of their states. You think Confederate soldiers weren't killed? Give me a break!

It was a war that literally pit brother against brother.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:38 PM
 
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How do you know he dodged the war? Gore served but, with his attuide these days he would not be the one I would run with my opinion. I didn't mention going to war, I meant if we have to run for cover on our own soil. I don't belive most of us are for war just for defending our right and freedom!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent

"Nugent was draft age during the Vietnam war. In the December 15, 1990 issue of the Detroit Free Press Magazine, Nugent was quoted as saying that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. "... but if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd killed all the hippies in the foxholes...I would have killed everybody." In a 2006 interview published in The Independent, Nugent denies ever saying (or doing) that. According to Nugent's current website, he enrolled at Oakland Community College and took a student deferment."

Nugent's yet another chickenhawk. I wouldn't care about his youthful draft dodging if he didn't have the views he has today. Furthermore,there is enough information out there to suggest that Ted may be at least a borderline pedophile, although it's up to a court of law to determine whether he truly is or not,so I'm not going to say he definitely is for sure. However, if I had a young daughter I wouldn't want her to be around Nugent based on what has been written about him.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:43 PM
 
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Ha ha, good one FFH!!

Some posters have mentioned they like Ted b/c he supports the troops, as suppose to other entertainers that don't. Hmmm...

Sean Penn, Jane Fonda, Tim Robbins, Susan Surandon, and many more.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Haddington, E. Lothian, Scotland
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Stick to Scottland history or fighting hairdressers and leave the history to us. The Confederacy were sticking up for the rights of their states. You think Confederate soldiers weren't killed? Give me a break!

It was a war that literally pit brother against brother.
Do you boo-hoo so hard for McVeigh? The Confederates were traitors. They should consider themselves lucky that Sherman only burnt their homes.

So let's test your zeal for states rights. You all for the US dissolving now and becoming 50 independent nations? Do us all a favor.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:50 PM
 
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Do you boo-hoo so hard for McVeigh? The Confederates were traitor scum. They should consider themselves lucky that Sherman only burnt their homes.
They were lucky that the North was led by a humane,moral man of good character like Lincoln who sought national reconciliation. The Confederates could very well have been hung en masse like the Jacobites were in 18th century Britain.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:52 PM
 
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They were lucky that the North was led by a humane,moral man of good character like Lincoln who sought national reconciliation. The Confederates could very well have been hung en masse like the Jacobites were in 18th century Britain.
As they should have. Civility is the better part of valor.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Haddington, E. Lothian, Scotland
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I've gotten some negative rep points for insulting the Stars & Bars.

Brilliant!

If I post a picture of a fat man in a confederate flag diaper, how many will that earn me?

I'll post if my reps go below 50...let the bidding start!
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Old 01-26-2007, 04:02 PM
 
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As they should have. Civility is the better part of valor.
With a different US president, they legally could have been. There was common law president for hanging rebels, established by how George II, the Duke of Cumberland, and Pelham dealt with the Jacobites.
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Old 01-26-2007, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Haddington, E. Lothian, Scotland
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With a different US president, they legally could have been. There was common law president for hanging rebels, established by how George II, the Duke of Cumberland, and Pelham dealt with the Jacobites.
They should have been. Stern treatment tends to dissuade traitors. Your history lesson is very appreciated, but I've walked every square meter of Culloden, thanks.

And the word you need is "precedent" not "president".
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