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Old 02-02-2007, 10:09 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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This is similar to saying "I used to work with a black guy and he seemed okay...". What year is this now, 2007? Oh, and I was just wondering...why would you be there when he and his partner are cozied up? Sounds a little menage-a-strange to me...

I can't stand to see people of any gender (m-f, f-f, m-m) slobbering on each other in public. It's very rare to see same sex couples doing anything more than holding hands, but straight couples commonly get very intimate in public. I don't care what they do in private, but I wish they didn't have to flaunt it.
what you think of my opinion you can be the judge,Im merely stating my thoughts.If I were invited to said friends house say a BBQ or something,I would feel uncomfortable seeing him and his partner cozy,thats what I mean,its their home though.Agreed that there is no need for even a man and woman to makeout or whatever in public.

Just because Im not embracing a lifestyle,does not mean Im not tolerent..to a certain extent.The Bill of Rights is in place to protect indiduals,and I support that,that does not mean I must embrace something I dont like...and just because someone doesn't like something that doesn't make them a bigot.

Impeding someone's lifestyle would be for instance to criminalize it.To disagree with it is different.

Anyway Im not going to get to involved in this thread....I've stated my opinion leave it at that.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I don't give a flip if you accept it or not, but it is going to become more and more accepted and same sex marriage will eventually happen. It's difficult to live in society when you can't accept inevitable changes. Good luck.
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:25 PM
 
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I don't give a flip if you accept it or not, but it is going to become more and more accepted and same sex marriage will eventually happen. It's difficult to live in society when you can't accept inevitable changes. Good luck.
I don't think you are understanding me,Im not going to be one holding a sign saying ban gay marriage.While I dont agree with it....if it becomes law fine..my life will go on .

You seem to think that the only acceptable thing to do is embrace it,nothing less is satisfactory.I disagree with it,will not stop it though.

Live a lifestyle you desire...putting on a gay pride parade is unecessary.Thats shoving something upon someone who might not wish to see it.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You seem to think we ALL are in the parade. I haven't participated in one for years, but I don't question anyone who wants to throw a parade for whatever reason. A parade is a celebration of something...and it seems like a pretty good reason to me, after years of oppression and hiding who they are finally being free to express it in the streets. Good for them.

As far as your half-way accepting someone...I'm sorry, not good enough and it's still ignorance personified. It's real, and I don't see how you can agree or disagree with being gay. People are gay. Period. Your half-hatred is noted.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:59 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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You seem to think we ALL are in the parade. I haven't participated in one for years, but I don't question anyone who wants to throw a parade for whatever reason. A parade is a celebration of something...and it seems like a pretty good reason to me, after years of oppression and hiding who they are finally being free to express it in the streets. Good for them.
Amen. The pride parades were originally started in response to the Stonewall Riots in NY... and here in San Francisco, they also responded to the murders of Mayor Moscone & Harvey Milk. It was a way to say "we're not going to be intimidated, harrassed, or forced to remain in the closet!" So I say good for them, and personally love attending the pride celebrations every year. It's quite the party out here!!

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As far as your half-way accepting someone...I'm sorry, not good enough and it's still ignorance personified. It's real, and I don't see how you can agree or disagree with being gay. People are gay. Period.
You see, that's one thing I don't get... why do some people think homosexuals want or need their "tolerance"? I always hear the phrases "I'm accepting, tolerant, okay with it, etc.", but who the heck asked them?? I've had tons of gay friends & acquaintances over the years, and not one of them has asked if it was OKAY with me. They're going to be gay regardless, so either choose to be around them or not - that's a person's prerogative... but I don't get why they feel the need to state it's acceptable to them. Would they grant me their precious blessings to be straight??
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:20 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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You must not have been to LA, SF or the Bay Area of California lately. One can see this filth in larage and small cities all the time, and that's to bad too.
So love is a bad thing?? Mmmkay. Anyhow, I live in the Bay Area, and see it VERY rarely (unless I'm right in the middle of Castro St. or a gay bar!)... like lionking said, it's much more common to see straight people doing the PDA thing. And I'd rather not see them slobbering in public either!!

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Flaunt it? do you really think that? What will you say next that dogs and cats should stick to their dog houses and cat carriers?
Do you see the irony in your response? Now you know how a gay person feels, when they're accused of "flaunting", simply for walking side-by-side with their loved ones. A straight couple can practically have sex in public & nobody bats an eyelash, but heaven forbid a gay couple might hold hands - OH MY!!! As long as nobody's naked or innappropriate, the same rules should apply to both straight & gay couples. Period.

Another hypocrisy I see constantly from people like you, is the double-standard about mentioning one's partner. If a gay person says "I had dinner with my boyfriend last night", they'll be accused of flaunting their homosexuality... or you get the response "why do we need to know what they do in bed?" Ummmmm, would you say the same if I talked about my boyfriend (as a woman)? This is why many are forced to come out officially, because otherwise they have to play the "pronoun game", or avoid ever mentioning their partner/dates - which is often a huge part of one's life. Would you like not being able to talk about your wife, simply because it might offend someone or make them think of sex?
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:05 AM
 
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Christians perform all kinds of hateful and violent acts, all in the name of love. What they really are doing is making buddism more attractive.
This is why I decided I was agnostic a long time ago. I see so much hypocrisy in the Christian religion and it has always bothered me. I particularly like the brand of Christian that believes it is okay to sin because God forgives sinners. Isn't the whole point to try not to sin?

Not only that, maybe God exists -- but which God?

My religion says that I should treat people like I would like to be treated. I can eat whatever I want, drink whatever I want. I don't have to pray on Friday, Saturday or Sunday (or any other day for that matter). I try to treat people the best I can because that is how I would like to be treated.

I also believe that karma will strike sinners and hypocrits and that you aren't really forgiven when you sin -- you just get a reprieve which means you get yours eventually.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:13 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I'm a strong believer in Karma - what goes around comes around... like when a jerk cuts you off in traffic, and you see him pulled over by a cop a few miles later. I also believe in the Golden Rule, which is more important than half the stuff written in the Bible.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:17 AM
 
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Ok, so can you provide me the interpretation of the following text from Genesis?

3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This portion of the bible was written specifically for Catholics.

They follow it religiously, particularly Hispanic Catholics.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:24 AM
 
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Wildberries, exactly, they should follow that teaching and live by it themselves and not push it on others to don’t choose to follow those beliefs. You apparently didn’t get my central question which was if there is already so much disagreement over interpetation by the various groups, why use those beliefs to legislate others? Cant they just keep those beliefs to rule over themselves and not others?

AMEN!!!!!!! Churches should follow their own teachings and live it themselves and NOT try to impose it on others!

I think our Constitution says the same thing!
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