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Old 08-11-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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They aren't sharing,Russia is SELLING its military hardware to China for cash.

Same as Russia does around the world as it has no other way to support its military complex.
Point is that they have a cozy relationship and hurting America is in both of their interests.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:56 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Point is that they have a cozy relationship and hurting America is in both of their interests.

Yes that is certainly true
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Point is that they have a cozy relationship and hurting America is in both of their interests.
No it is not in China's interests.

They need the US markets for their crap as much as we 'need to buy it.

Actually if you think about it,they need us more.

We as a people could forego buying new crap for a while,China cannot simply stop producing it as their people would rebel.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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What are you talking about......its communism to the fullest between Russia and China. These guys are actually sharing military technologies. Wake up my friend

I wouldnt say Russia is communist but lets say they were to make a point.

Both countries have had in past border problems . Why would China who is going to be the new super power want to help Russia ?

That is only self defeating. China does what is good for China.

I agree with the other post . They will come together to stick it to us but China isnt going to help build up Russia at its own risk.

China buys from Russia what it needs but China doesnt share with Russia .
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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No it is not in China's interests.

They need the US markets for their crap as much as we 'need to buy it.

Actually if you think about it,they need us more.

We as a people could forego buying new crap for a while,China cannot simply stop producing it as their people would rebel.
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China can burn the candle at both ends because China doesnt need Russia its like Donald Trump needing me lol.

China will help Russia as long as its good for them.

China plays us and Russia like puppets. China will not lift a finger nor support Russia if it takes $1 out of their country .

I disagree about China's people rebeling . Chinas gvmt like most Gvmts can do what it wants when it wants.

Dont kid yourself we might be the one's that "rebel" if now a pair of shorts cost $100 because China stops producing.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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No it is not in China's interests.

They need the US markets for their crap as much as we 'need to buy it.

Actually if you think about it,they need us more.

We as a people could forego buying new crap for a while,China cannot simply stop producing it as their people would rebel.
rofl. China's got tons of customers lined up to buy their crap. My last trip to Europe saw Tesco stores flooded with chinese garbage and the customers lining up to buy them. Australia and Canada would love to get some cheap shoes in exchange for their vast nickel, oil, and food resources.

Consuming is easy and fun. Everyone wants to consume. The Chinese (internally) and others will be happy to pick up the slack.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:41 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Can anybody show me in the Constitution where it grants authority to the government to spread Democracy around the world?

Can anybody explain in our Declaration where the words "We the people" refers to people of the world?


Can anybody show me in the document where it says all men are created equal by Democracy?
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Can anybody show me in the Constitution where it grants authority to the government to spread Democracy around the world?

Can anybody explain in our Declaration where the words "We the people" refers to people of the world?


Can anybody show me in the document where it says all men are created equal by Democracy?
But it's about honor
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:45 PM
 
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But it's about honor
no it is about pride.And some under estimate the pride of others.

Lots of history lessons being spread on the thread,how about the history of Washington and T Roosevelt who they said do not create alliances and walk softly but carry a big stick.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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no it is about pride.And some under estimate the pride of others.

Lots of history lessons being spread on the thread,how about the history of Washington and T Roosevelt who they said do not create alliances and walk softly but carry a big stick.
But invoking Hitler has more shock value

These people can't get enough of their buddy Adolf.
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