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Old 08-12-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Why was Western europe worth risking nuclear war over?

Things were handled differently than going in to remove the Russians by force which is what you want when it comes to GA.

Putting that aside why USA why us why not Europe,etc ?

I for one am glad we arent going to get involved as far as troops go.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Odd that "NATO leaders endorsed Ukraine and Georgia's accession to the Membership Action Plan" which is the first step to becoming a member of NATO.

There has also been something happening lately...what was it again????

Ohhh!!!!

Thats right, Russia has invaded Georgia.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Things were handled differently than going in to remove the Russians by force which is what you want when it comes to GA.

Putting that aside why USA why us why not Europe,etc ?

I for one am glad we arent going to get involved as far as troops go.
No I don't, I want the USA to support its ally.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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No I don't, I want the USA to support its ally.

Support how ?

We have given a few speeches . Are going to send aid thats all we can do.

Other than military force
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Odd that "NATO leaders endorsed Ukraine and Georgia's accession to the Membership Action Plan" which is the first step to becoming a member of NATO.

There has also been something happening lately...what was it again????

Ohhh!!!!

Thats right, Russia has invaded Georgia.
You seem to be confused my friend.....USA a is NATO leader, so is France and Germany. USA endorsement is taken serious but Turkey and some other nutcases in that organizations - their words and endorsements are as good as mine: nobody would care what they think or say
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:45 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Support how ?

We have given a few speeches . Are going to send aid thats all we can do.

Other than military force
Supply military aid.

Sanctions against Russia.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:49 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Supply military aid.

Sanctions against Russia.

The last thing we want is for the fighting to continue supplying military aid in equipment would just prolong it and GA would suffer that much more.

We certainly arent going to provide more than equipment .

Sure could be sanctions .
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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Supply military aid.

Sanctions against Russia.
Sanctions against Russia??? And what are we gonna do when the Russians cut off the energy supply to our allies over there? Transport some from what's that guy's name - T.boone pickens or something
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:01 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You asked.

It seems people are too frightened nowadays to do the moral thing.

REALPOLITIK is how most people think now.

Sad.
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Old 08-12-2008, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Nirvana
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You asked.

It seems people are too frightened nowadays to do the moral thing.

REALPOLITIK is how most people think now.

Sad.
The FIRST "right thing" is to halt Russia's advance through Georgia. This would have been much easier if the United States wasn't hamstrung in the middle east. Leaders around the world know that the US is at its most vulnerable, both politically and militarily, than its been in a long, long time. That's why both carrots and sticks from W. are anemic.

The 2nd "right thing" is to make sure Russia doesn't make a move on the Ukraine, which is probably where their sights will turn next. Again, this would be much easier if we weren't tied up.

The 3rd "right thing" is to make sure that we don't start a war that kills us all. Contrary to popular belief, Americans bleed and die as quickly as anyone else.

What's "sad" is the thought among some of us that a club is the first, last, and only way to get things done. And that Americans are supposed to somehow be willing to die to police the world's problems.
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