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You cannot observe evolution, and you certainly cannot create it (therefore repeat it). It is the biggest hoax ever foisted on a gullible public. Only global warming comes close.
Can you observe creationism?
Nope didn't think so.
Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is? You are saying God would not believe in Himself. Do statements like that just come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it?
Can you observe creationism?
Nope didn't think so.
Wait a minute, not so fast, smarty pants. I can observe what has been created, and that tells me there is a Creator.
You people who wonder about the universe, and cannot fathom it's size and how it came into being. You try so hard to figure it out, yet you reject the clear answer. Why? Because you are too full of yourselves and your "intellect", such as it is. You are too arrogant to believe in something larger than yourselves.
Wait a minute, not so fast, smarty pants. I can observe what has been created, and that tells me there is a Creator.
So tell me about such "creations" like clouds, caves, and rocks. Does that prove someone created those?
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You people who wonder about the universe, and cannot fathom it's size and how it came into being. You try so hard to figure it out, yet you reject the clear answer. Why? Because you are too full of yourselves and your "intellect", such as it is. You are too arrogant to believe in something larger than yourselves.
Actually it's quite the opposite. If we want to know how we got here the best thing would be to study the earth instead of throwing your hands in the air and saying "forget this, let's just say someone created it"
And going by your last few statements, I'd say that hardcore creationists are the ones who are "arrogant"
So tell me about such "creations" like clouds, caves, and rocks. Does that prove someone created those?
Actually it's quite the opposite. If we want to know how we got here the best thing would be to study the earth instead of throwing your hands in the air and saying "forget this, let's just say someone created it"
And going by your last few statements, I'd say that hardcore creationists are the ones who are "arrogant"
I love how those of us who reject the childish notion of an invisible man in the sky who condemns people to eternal torment are incapable of believing in "something larger than ourselves".
Is there anyone more simplistic than a monotheist?
To be clear if I haven't been, I have no problem with anyone's faith when well maintained within the confines of one's own personal domain. It is those who would reach out on the basis of their faith to violate the personal domains of others who may see uncertain things in a different way whom I have a problem with. These need to know better their bounds and to learn better their proper manners...
So, then why are you trying to shove evolution down everyone's throat? That is your religion, is it not? Perhaps you need to learn some "proper manners."
Do you think that "evolution" is not offensive to some of us? I'm sorry. I did not descend from an ape! Perhaps you did (tongue in cheek). The Bible tells me I am a creation of God. I am unique, and above the animals. I was created in His image (I know you don't know what that means, but there simply isn't space here to explain it).
What hypocracy! Do you ever read what you write before you post it? You obviously didn't think about it.
You criticize me for my faith, for which I at least have a basis to believe it (a historical account naming people and places that can be proven to have existed, some places still existing today, with their archaeological evidence, the dead sea scrolls, uncovered tombs, etc, etc., and witnesses — do you have witnesses? Didn't think so.)
What do you have? Nada, zero, nothing, zilch! Evolution is not a fact! It cannot, has not, and will not ever be proven, because it never happened. That is why it is still refered to as a "theory" (someone here, I forget who, tried to tell me that most theories in science today were considered "facts". Well that simply is not true either. A theory is just that; a theory. Someones guess. Often based on a hunch. Often wrong).
There are Laws in science. These are things (theories) that have been tested and proven to be true. The Laws of Thermodynamics, for example.
Where is your test for evolution? Show it to me.
If man descended from apes, why are there still apes? What's your answer? Do you have one? No.
Sometimes curiosity gets the better of me and I view a hidden post.
Hey ignorant rubes: A scientific theory is NOT a "hunch". It is proposed and then (over hundreds of years, sometimes) evidence is gathered to support it. Anyone who tries to say there is no evidence for evolution is equivalent to those who ignored the "theory" that the earth was round. No difference. None at all.
Yes technically it is people don't hold a gun to the murderers head & say you must do this or die yourself. Most murderers have mental issues going on in there head that non-murderous people don't understand. Does that make what they do right NO, but that is why we have a justice system that punishes them for their wrong doings. Is it a personal issue yes. They made the choice to commit that act for whatever issue they have going on in there head.
Oh & for your information I don't believe in the death penalty as such I would like to see a torture penalty enforced where people who commit rape murder etc should be made to physically suffer the way their victims did.
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So, I guess, is doing other drugs, huh?
Yes it is so is the the choice not to associate yourself with those who choose to do drugs
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Granted, and so do conservatives. We don't like to see what our founders created being destroyed by wrong thinking, and those who prefer socialism to freedom. They can go live somewhere else.
Isn't allowing people to make up their own minds on how they treat their body etc freedom of choice (liberal views) where as telling people they can't be homosexual, smoke or take drugs, have an abortion, nor participate in sex before marriage & all the bull**** conservative views is conforming to a social standard. So that point there just made you look more like an idiot then you already are
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How did I know this was coming? Does Rush now issue "talking points"? Do you even listen to Rush? Probably not. You know what you just did with that statement? You just told us that conservatives do not have a right to express their opinions publicly, but you do.
I challenge you to listen to Rush for at least one week, to find out how intelligent, and educated he is, and how cogent his arguments are.
What so we can conform to your way of thinking & be socialists rather then having the freedom & the right of making our own choices & forming our own opinions.
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Rush and other conservative pundits and radio talkers only give voice to conservative views, which are difficult to find in other so-called "mainstream" media. Certainly in a free country, he (and we) have a right to do this. If Rush and other conservatives can't speak, we are no longer free. Without Rush and others, we would be left with NPR, getting only government and liberal propaganda. Kind of like the former USSR and Pravda.
Sure allow him the freedom of speech but also allow the liberals freedom of speech. Expecting America to conform to his thoughts & ideas is not freedom.
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You don't understand what is being argued about or what is at stake, or you wouldn't make such a statement. We have on one side, people who are essentially socialists wanting to change America into something you would not recognize as "America as our founders created it". On the other side, are people who love freedom, rugged individualism, and limited government, as did our founders, and this battle is to preserve it for our children and our grandchildren.
I don't think you understand what is being argued. Conforming to a set way of thinking, do not abort even if your a victim of rape or you are going to have a mentally challenged or disabled child that is going to suffer more in life then if you were to abort. Or **** your own life cause you will die during the birthing process cause your not allowed to abort.
How dare you love somebody of the same sex that is not right & not allowed. Only love between opposite sexes is classified as real love & don't you even dare think about marrying a same sex partner because you will go to hell I tell you hell because god does not love or accept anyone who chooses same sex relationships etc, is being a socialist.
Isn't the foundation of America set around freedom. The freedom of choice. The freedom of speech. Well how is choosing to abort or not to abort for whatever reason (I am pre choice however I personally would not choose to have an abortion, but I don't chastise & put down many of my friends who have made that choice), choosing to take drugs for whatever reason (sometimes it is for medicinal purposes) etc conforming to society & it's views. It isn't it is allowing everybody to choose what they feel is right for themselves & not doing what others think id right for them.
In conclusion
Liberals = Freedom
Conservatives = Socialists
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So true. Why else do people (including that insipid conservative saint Ronald Reagan) push for the "liberalization" of communist China (or the USSR or Cuba)? It means opening up and granting more freedom. There is nothing free about the conservatives' plans for this country.
It's why I can't understand doctrinaire liberals' views on gun control. Freedom is freedom. There is no middle ground. It's a shame the libertarians nominated Bob Barr, who is really just a disgruntled homophobic Republican.
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If man descended from apes, why are there still apes? What's your answer? Do you have one? No.
Wow you really are a moron if you truly think that modern humans came from apes. Only ignorant creationists think that.
Apes and man share a common ancestor, not descended from. Selective adaptation allowed the evolution of modern man and apes.
So, if we all came from Adam and Eve why are there so many different races, then? What's your answer?
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