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Old 08-17-2008, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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LOL, what a loser. 48 year old and still living at home tells it all. Dad's question was $50K extra a year for doing nothing or make my cranky son happy. Easy answer to that one.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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LOL, what a loser. 48 year old and still living at home tells it all. Dad's question was $50K extra a year for doing nothing or make my cranky son happy. Easy answer to that one.
Family farm - kids often stay on the farm with their families and kids -

Grow up richurch
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:08 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Question to you: Would you want to listen to the sounds described 24/7?
Ah yeah, since I need to sleep w/a fan on at all times, that'd be totally convenient. Better than where I live now, near the airport.
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:17 PM
 
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Here's a dumb question-don't we have a desert? It's in the southwest right? It is probably not that inhabited. Does the wind blow there? What if we took all the land in the desert southwest and filled it with these wind turbines? Would it create enough electricity for the whole nation? Most of it? Then I'm all for this scenario.
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Earth
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wouldn't solar be better in a desert?
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:29 PM
 
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Would it create enough electricity for the whole nation? Most of it? Then I'm all for this scenario.
The estimates that I've read are that given the technology today, solar could provide upwards of 20-25% of our country's electricity needs. That's assuming that huge solar power plants are built in the southwest and the power grid is upgraded to allow for better distribution.

Wind could supposedly generate up to 20% of our electricity needs. The rest is going to have to come from coal and nuclear (assuming natural gas ceases to be used for electricity generation. Hydro will be minimal.
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:45 PM
 
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The estimates that I've read are that given the technology today, solar could provide upwards of 20-25% of our country's electricity needs. That's assuming that huge solar power plants are built in the southwest and the power grid is upgraded to allow for better distribution.

Wind could supposedly generate up to 20% of our electricity needs. The rest is going to have to come from coal and nuclear (assuming natural gas ceases to be used for electricity generation. Hydro will be minimal.
Even better, let's fill the desert southwest with solar, and the mountains with wind turbines-that's 45% or better of our electricity needs. Start taking our 200-400 years of coal and convert it to oil "for 10 years". Start on the prototype for natural gas/electric cars---Ahh that's right! Clean natural gas to kick the motor that will recharge the battery! Then in years to come as batteries get better I see 150-300 miles on one overnight charge. Let's say goodbye to oil. I still want gas around to fuel my muscle cars on the weekend though
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Then in years to come as batteries get better I see 150-300 miles on one overnight charge. Let's say goodbye to oil. I still want gas around to fuel my muscle cars on the weekend though
I drive cross country a lot - heck - we will do 600 miles just for a day trip. Unless, and until, a battery will last that long, gas cars will still be very, very much part of our lives.
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:33 AM
 
Location: In a house
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And I would have to ask is it worse than living near a train track listen to the rumble and the horn blowing can we stop all the trains ? what about the helicoptors that the hospitals and the police use should we try to stop those too? How about the homes built near or next to the freeways , should we stop the stater from building new freeways? I can go onm and on . At least with the windgenerators the farmers can still use the land below them , I haven't heard of any plants or crops complaining that they can't grow because of all the wosh , wosh Ha! Ha!.

Are any of those noises a constant? 24/7 trains, helicoptors, emergency vehicle sirens?

Its my feeling that the industry decieves people on the level of noise involved.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:05 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Few here have an accurate idea of the noise levels involved.

People tend to whine about anything they can. Sound pressure decreases greatly over distance.
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