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Old 08-18-2008, 08:03 PM
 
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Anyone can display their religious symbols on private property, just not on public property, as this is seen as a state endorsment of religion.
They SEEK a state endorsement of their religion. Another example of how they Hate America.

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Is Santa (St. Nicolas) a religious symbol? Apparently the court thought so.
No. They thought an overtly Christian nativity scene was a religious display. Santa got into the act because the government in question tried to hide behind a holiday theme by rushing out to WalMart to get other seasonal decorations. They came back with one giant inflatable Santa, one giant inflatable snowman, and a wooden sled, all of which they put next to the nativity scene. Big shock that the court didn't fall for that.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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Do you see exceptions in the Free Speech clause that are meant to apply to these groups?


And if said speech incites people to commit violence?



The state may not use its agency to promote the interests of any particular religion, or of religion over non-religion. Religion in this country is an entirely individual matter. The state is to play no role. How much simpler could this be?


This makes me laugh at the leftwing liberal elite for actually thinking that a picture of Santa Claus is trying to promote religion as opposed to the holiday itself. God forbid (oooh, did I say the G-word? Sorry) something that is a symbol of happiness and joy is put out in public. Perhaps we can call it "art" and maybe then it will stick. Perhaps we can throw dog crap on it and get a government grant. I have never seen Christmas decorations utilized as a way to try and indoctrinate non-Christians into Christianity. It's just the uber-left taking itself way to seriously. But go ahead and defend symbols of hatred like a KKK hood in their right to march on public grounds. Take a poll of a group of taxpayers and I would bet they would rather see a picture of Santa on its grounds than the KKK.


Want to cite a case?

Their views on gun control are enough. Perhaps if the ACLU concentrated on the reason why an officer fired their guns instead of the fact that a gun was fired? But, the ACLU needs to stick to its left-wing agenda.

You seem to feel that your best interests will be served by trashing the Constitution of the United States. It is indeed safe to assume that the ACLU will not serve such interests at all...
Once again, get over yourself. Holiday decorations don't trash the Constitution which states Freedom OF Religion. Hanging a decoration doesn't promote a religion, it celebrates a holiday. No different than hanging a Monet which I believe the ACLU wouldn't have a problem with. I guess the safest thing to do is just color the walls of public places one color that is neutral. I believe 1940's Germany did this as well.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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We live in the United States of the Offended.
I think it's funny when people get offended by nativity scenes and 'Merry Christmas'.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:48 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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We live in the United States of the Offended.
I think it's funny when people get offended by nativity scenes and 'Merry Christmas'.

That they might but not Namblas "rights".

I don't subscribe to any Relegion but don't care if someone in office,etc put's up nativity scene or star of David,etc.

I do not want the GVMT putting up either or allowing either in public area and I don"t support Nambla's "rights" either.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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That they might but not Namblas "rights".

I don't subscribe to any Relegion but don't care if someone in office,etc put's up nativity scene or star of David,etc.

I do not want the GVMT putting up either or allowing either in public area and I don"t support Nambla's "rights" either.
I think the govt should put them up, and put more of them up.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:52 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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They SEEK a state endorsement of their religion. Another example of how they Hate America.


No. They thought an overtly Christian nativity scene was a religious display. Santa got into the act because the government in question tried to hide behind a holiday theme by rushing out to WalMart to get other seasonal decorations. They came back with one giant inflatable Santa, one giant inflatable snowman, and a wooden sled, all of which they put next to the nativity scene. Big shock that the court didn't fall for that.

There is a cell phone store in the area . The sign on the door saids " Try Jesus if it doesn't work out Satan will take you back".

I needed a new cell phone but due to that didn't go there . They have a right to put the sdign there . I have right not to buy from them.


I don't know why people must display their "faith" on their sleeve. Maybe just not use to Florida yet .
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:53 AM
 
Location: southern california
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you could be liberal and not support ACLU. ACLU is hard left, over the sun beyond the moon.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:55 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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you could be liberal and not support ACLU. ACLU is hard left, over the sun beyond the moon.

I agree. I don't tow the line for liberals nor conservatives. ACLU has done great thing's and thing's I don't agree with.

Feel no need to support them blindly .
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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How is an organization that defends an individual's right to self expression a bad thing? That sound pretty darn conservative to me.
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Old 08-19-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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How is an organization that defends an individual's right to self expression a bad thing? That sound pretty darn conservative to me.

I don't agree with everything they do.
If that's conservative than call me conservative.
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