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View Poll Results: Sould the Federal Government help bail out the State and Local governments?
Yes! The cuts will impact my quality of life 3 17.65%
Maybe, but only for roads and public safety 2 11.76%
NO! The States need to cut back their out of control spending 12 70.59%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-20-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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One issue that has only been getting a little bit of play in the media, is the terrible shape many State, City and County governments are in. Many are doing alright this year due to some accounting tricks and rainy day funds, but 2009-2010 look really bad. Many are going to have to layoff thousands of people and things that are alot closer to the average person than federal spending are going to be hit...HARD.

Look for massive cuts in schools, fire, police, roads, libraries, parks and welfare programs. Of course everyone will scream, "don't cut my favorite program" which will put pressure on elected reps to raise taxes (in a recession!)

There will be calls for the Federal Government to bail out the States. Should they?
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Old 08-20-2008, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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if the state spends too much and needs a bailout, they should get it. they should then be forced to pay back that money with interest, so they will learn a lesson.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:30 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The federal government took money from the citizens of our states through federal taxes. We could increase state taxes if we lowered federal taxes. That would help our home states with development and keep us out of a deficit. Our current system transfers the wealth of one state to another and transfers the wealth of our country to foreign countries. Our state governments aren't wasting money on useless projects or foreign aid. They are helping manage our country and your home state.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Why should I be indebted, by no action of my own, to help "bail" out others who chose to be fiscally irresponsible?

NO!!
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:10 PM
 
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if the state spends too much and needs a bailout, they should get it. they should then be forced to pay back that money with interest, so they will learn a lesson.
That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. You would want the state to learn its lesson by paying interest for not being competent which would only turn the state to raise its taxes on the people.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:12 PM
 
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The thing is that there is too much corruption in this country and no one cares. When they care maybe things will change somewhat. but all I see in the future is labor cuts but salary increase for the political elite and no control of spending but even higher taxes! fricking geniouses these people elect, what a great system a democracy is!
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The people who live in fiscally irrespnsible stats ought not suffer because of that. The federal government was established largely to ensure the wellbeing of all its citizens, and has the final responsibility for that.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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The people who live in fiscally irrespnsible stats ought not suffer because of that. The federal government was established largely to ensure the wellbeing of all its citizens, and has the final responsibility for that.
If that's the case, then people outside of a given state should have a say(vote) in who's running it.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:11 PM
 
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Why should I be indebted, by no action of my own, to help "bail" out others who chose to be fiscally irresponsible?

NO!!
because you want to wage wars that drain the economy. Bin Laden predicted and Iraq has given him his American economy drain.
A NATION CHALLENGED: BIN LADEN'S WORDS; 'America Is in Decline,' the Leader of Al Qaeda Says - New York Times
Even if our weapons do not reach their planes, the impact of their strikes can be alleviated by expanding our defense lines. Another method is to hit the economy, which is the basis of military might. If their economy is finished, they will become too busy to enslave oppressed people. . . .

This was December 2001

The surging is working and Bin Laden is happy.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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because you want to wage wars that drain the economy. Bin Laden predicted and Iraq has given him his American economy drain.
A NATION CHALLENGED: BIN LADEN'S WORDS; 'America Is in Decline,' the Leader of Al Qaeda Says - New York Times
Even if our weapons do not reach their planes, the impact of their strikes can be alleviated by expanding our defense lines. Another method is to hit the economy, which is the basis of military might. If their economy is finished, they will become too busy to enslave oppressed people. . . .

This was December 2001

The surging is working and Bin Laden is happy.
You know what drains the economy?

Welfare
Mortgage bailouts

Please, tell me the last terrorist attack on US soil, since we've invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?

That's right, NONE. That means we're winning. Unlike under the last administration of Klintoon, where he let the WTC get attacked, Navy sailors get killed in the Cole bombing, and let Bin Laden get away because he didn't want to damage our "image" in the middle east.

Enjoy.
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