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Old 08-21-2008, 01:53 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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I'm white working-class and I served in the infantry in Vietnam. I didn't run to Canada or pull the real chicken act like the lefty professors who formed your infantile views.

And I support our troops in Iraq and anywhere else they serve, regardless of their race, class, ethnicity or political views.

This thread is ignorant and hateful.

I simply posted a link from youtube and explained has NOTHING to do with being White (ESP since white is dominant group in Infantry) read what I said but it does with the NEW Rush Limbaugh type neocon Chicken hawk hypocrite GOP.

Which you are NOT.

They OWN the GOP now .

youtube link/interview speak's for itself .

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Old 08-21-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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I'm white working-class and I served in the infantry in Vietnam. I didn't run to Canada or pull the real chicken act like the lefty professors who formed your infantile views.

And I support our troops in Iraq and anywhere else they serve, regardless of their race, class, ethnicity or political views.

This thread is ignorant and hateful.

My so called "infantile" views were formed from what I saw while in the Army . The new military as far as combat MOS goes is poor and working class .

Exception's sure but only exception's .
No Bill Oreilly nor Shawn Hannity junior's serving but they sure do support war after war .

Extend the troops even though Pentagon warn's bad idea ?

GOP said's sure why not again no Neocon's serving so no big deal .

Again put aside White yes these hypocrite's are White but has nothing to do with White . It's their eager beaver support of war/s aslong as poor-working class White fight it for them.
In the "new" military poor/working class fight for the elite hypocrite Rush Limbaugh type's.

(I left out other group's/races who serve just to show you what I mean)

You might agree with Limbaugh but your no hypocrite chicken hawk far from it (many here are male/female). However it is the chicken hawk hypocrite's who now CONTROL/OWN the GOP.

Wasn't that way years ago.

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Old 08-21-2008, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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My so called "infantile" views were formed from what I saw while in the Army . The new military as far as combat MOS goes is poor and working class .

Exception's sure but only exception's .
No Bill Oreilly nor Shawn Hannity junior's serving but they sure do support war after war .

Extend the troops even though Pentagon warn's bad idea ?

GOP said's sure why not again no Neocon's serving so no big deal .
MY MOS was eleven-bravo. I stand by my post.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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I'm white working-class and I served in the infantry in Vietnam. I didn't run to Canada or pull the real chicken act like the lefty professors who formed your infantile views.

And I support our troops in Iraq and anywhere else they serve, regardless of their race, class, ethnicity or political views.

This thread is ignorant and hateful.
I only support the poor white troops, sorry.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Luiso View Post
My so called "infantile" views were formed from what I saw while in the Army . The new military as far as combat MOS goes is poor and working class .

Exception's sure but only exception's .
No Bill Oreilly nor Shawn Hannity junior's serving but they sure do support war after war .

Extend the troops even though Pentagon warn's bad idea ?

GOP said's sure why not again no Neocon's serving so no big deal .
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I only support the poor white troops, sorry.
Bud, change your last name.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I'm white working-class and I served in the infantry in Vietnam. I didn't run to Canada or pull the real chicken act like the lefty professors who formed your infantile views.

And I support our troops in Iraq and anywhere else they serve, regardless of their race, class, ethnicity or political views.

This thread is ignorant and hateful.
Drafted I suspect.

I served and didn't support either Vietnam or Iraq. Both wars were a misuse of the American military and both did horrendous damage to the organization. A true patriot doesn't want to see his fellow servicemen's live squandered for Washington politics.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Drafted I suspect.

I served and didn't support either Vietnam or Iraq. Both wars were a misuse of the American military and both did horrendous damage to the organization. A true patriot doesn't want to see his fellow servicemen's live squandered for Washington politics.
Volunteered for the draft. Took two years off from college to serve my country. People used to do that.

A true patriot supports our troops while in harm's way, and does not cast aspersions on the courage of others as a way of scoring political points.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:20 PM
 
Location: S.Florida
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MY MOS was eleven-bravo. I stand by my post.

Did you watch the video at all?

Forget about White .
I wish I could change them all any other race as it's not about White lol. ESP ESP when white is the dominant group in ALL combat MOS's.

Point is the military now as far as 11Bravo and 13 Bravo among other combat MOS is mostly poor-working class .

Take a few min and watch it it's not about White.
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Did you watch the video at all?

Forget about White .
I wish I could change them all any other race as it's not about White lol. ESP ESP when white is the dominant group in ALL combat MOS's.

Point is the military now as far as 11Bravo and 13 Bravo among other combat MOS is mostly poor-working class .

Take a few min and watch it it's not about White.
As a guy who was poor working class when I served in the infantry, I don't need any amateur video to tell me that my kind of people take it in the neck when there's a war on.

A guy named Rudyard Kipling wrote this poem in 1892. I know it's pretty linear to do so, but try reading it....

Tommy

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
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