News, Abortion clinic cited for improper disposal. (weapon, Clinton, identities)

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by poogie777

After reading the dr spock...You are helping prove my point! You obviously aren't reading what you are throwing at me! LOL Read your first article. ....read the Mayo Clinic article....You can tell the sex around 11 and 12 weeks....


Shut them down!!!

You're the one who needs to read the articles. They prove her right, not you. Her point was not that the sex of the child didn't develop, just that the sex of the child could not be determined by ultrasound.

[saganista]

Methinks that all in all <poogie777> has been about as faithful to the truth as the original thread title was. A wee bit of license may have been taken here and there. All in service to "The Cause" of course. Kind of like He has Weapons of Mass Destruction!...doesn't really matter if it's true or not so long as it gets the job done. Anti-choice arguments are typically littered with examples of the tactic. No honest argument to make, but that won't hold some folks back...

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by poogie777

Mayo Clinic is fine! Check out week 11! Thanks! You helped my case! Goodnight!

Yes - at the very end of week 11 is when the genitals BEGIN TO FORM. They are not detectable via ultrasound until later than that.

Tell me again when these 2 abortions were performed? You said before 12 weeks. Do you realize a fetus at 10 weeks is just a bit over an inch long?

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by poogie777

After reading the dr spock...You are helping prove my point! You obviously aren't reading what you are throwing at me! LOL Read your first article. ....read the Mayo Clinic article....You can tell the sex around 11 and 12 weeks....


Shut them down!!!

Wow - You are the one not reading- Dr Spock says:

When the genitals begin to form
Male and female genital systems are identical through the sixth week of gestation or the eighth week of your pregnancy. By week 12 to 14, your baby's external genitalia are recognizably male or female, but they're still not completely formed. On ultrasound, if your baby is cooperating and is positioned in a favorable way, his or her sex can be identified as early as the 16th to 18th week of your pregnancy. Of course, if your baby is "hiding his stuff" (positioned in such a way as to prevent identification), it will make no difference how far along in your pregnancy you are--you won't find out your baby's sex.

Gentials do not form until between week 12 to 14, and cant be detected on ultrasound until the 16th to 18th week.

[camping!]

Originally Posted by saganista

Methinks that all in all <poogie777> has been about as faithful to the truth as the original thread title was. A wee bit of license may have been taken here and there. All in service to "The Cause" of course. Kind of like He has Weapons of Mass Destruction!...doesn't really matter if it's true or not so long as it gets the job done. Anti-choice arguments are typically littered with examples of the tactic. No honest argument to make, but that won't hold some folks back...

Kinda like comparing a fetus with tapeworms, a chicken wing (different thread, and don't ask!) and (my personal favorite) the visogoths....

[poogie777]

You all were saying that I was "full of crap" that they "couldn't possibly see what sex the babies were at 12 weeks and therefore I'm "full of crap" that they really didn't ask me if I wanted to know the sex."
The urls YOU threw at me all backed up the point is that, Yes, the genitils of babies are obvious (notice they even called the "leeches" BABIES...) at as early as 11 weeks.
What would be the point in having an ultra sound? There is no need except to see how far the baby has come along. After removing the baby, you can see the sex if the baby is at least 11 weeks old, according to the urls you provided...except for Dr Spock who said according to an ultrasound. Which has nothing to do with being able to see the sex when the BABY is removed during an abortion.


Camping, the true weapons of mass destruction are abortion clinics....thankfully they are being shut down, one by one. At one time there were 2000 BABY killing clinics...now there are 750. If they shut this one down that violated women's privacy as well as the other 2 being investigated...that only makes 747 left to go!

Shut them down!

[arod0331]

Originally Posted by poogie777

You all were saying that I was "full of crap" that they "couldn't possibly see what sex the babies were at 12 weeks and therefore I'm "full of crap" that they really didn't ask me if I wanted to know the sex."
The urls YOU threw at me all backed up the point is that, Yes, the genitils of babies are obvious (notice they even called the "leeches" BABIES...) at as early as 11 weeks.
What would be the point in having an ultra sound? There is no need except to see how far the baby has come along. After removing the baby, you can see the sex if the baby is at least 11 weeks old, according to the urls you provided...except for Dr Spock who said according to an ultrasound. Which has nothing to do with being able to see the sex when the BABY is removed during an abortion.


Camping, the true weapons of mass destruction are abortion clinics....thankfully they are being shut down, one by one. At one time there were 2000 BABY killing clinics...now there are 750. If they shut this one down that violated women's privacy as well as the other 2 being investigated...that only makes 747 left to go!

Shut them down!

And the award for most dramatic goes to........

[poogie777]

LOL...I can accept that. Improper dispossal is unacceptable!

[camping!]

Originally Posted by poogie777

You all were saying that I was "full of crap" that they "couldn't possibly see what sex the babies were at 12 weeks and therefore I'm "full of crap" that they really didn't ask me if I wanted to know the sex."
The urls YOU threw at me all backed up the point is that, Yes, the genitils of babies are obvious (notice they even called the "leeches" BABIES...) at as early as 11 weeks.
What would be the point in having an ultra sound? There is no need except to see how far the baby has come along. After removing the baby, you can see the sex if the baby is at least 11 weeks old, according to the urls you provided...except for Dr Spock who said according to an ultrasound. Which has nothing to do with being able to see the sex when the BABY is removed during an abortion.


Camping, the true weapons of mass destruction are abortion clinics....thankfully they are being shut down, one by one. At one time there were 2000 BABY killing clinics...now there are 750. If they shut this one down that violated women's privacy as well as the other 2 being investigated...that only makes 747 left to go!

Shut them down!

Yeah, that was saganista.........

[saganista]

Originally Posted by camping!

Kinda like comparing a fetus with tapeworms, a chicken wing (different thread, and don't ask!) and (my personal favorite) the visogoths....

You object to such comparisons only because they raise and then highlight issues that the anti-choice side is incapable of answering. For lack of an answer, you object to the question. The situation is that you HAVE no actual answers to ANY questions. You have only a faith in religious dogma. There are no convincing secular arguments to support the essential positions that your side takes.

Meanwhile, no one objects to your holding personal opinions that are based upon such ephemeral and unsubstantiated beliefs, nor do they object to your acting upon those opinions in your own life. People object only when you decide to export those opinions to others, and then, upon finding few buyers, decide to compel them onto others. There, you step across a very bright line, and it is mete and right for sensible people to call you on your trespass...