News, Abortion clinic cited for improper disposal. (health care, Obama, invasion)

[cousinsal]

Originally Posted by Rggr

This paragraph clearly states that it's not simply medical records.

"The clinic, WomanCare, was under investigation by police and state officials since the spring after an anti-abortion group found biomedical waste, fetal remains and medical documents in garbage receptacles outside of the facility."

It sounds like they weren't disposing of it properly. We use those red biohazard bags in our lab, and they are periodically picked up.

Why the hell were those people picking through it? It's not exactly safe to do that.

Of course, there are fetal remains if it's a place where they do abortions.

[arod0331]

Originally Posted by cousinsal

Why the hell were those people picking through it? It's not exactly safe to do that.

Desperate people will do anything.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by Upton

Fetal remains could mean anything. One thing it doesn't mean is whole babies, which is what the thread title seems to suggest. Just more typical anti choice BS.

I don't know what exactly it means. You're right it could mean anything.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by camping!

Actually, picking through garbage is legal --- you threw it out, so it no longer belongs to you is the reasoning, I believe.

Depends where the trash is, and to some degree on local laws. The basic principle is that once it's been placed at a point of normal collection, the owner loses his or her exclusive control over it. If a container is in your back yard, it's off limits to others. Once you haul it out to the curb, it's not anymore.

Originally Posted by camping!

Still, throwing out medical waste is disgusting and they are right to be fined.

It's a public health issue, which is why there are laws about it. Disgusting doesn't enter into it. Some people might find used kitty litter disgusting.

Originally Posted by camping!

As far as it only being bloody gauze....well, how far along are they allowed to perform abortions at this place? It could very well have had more identifiable 'parts' in the trash.

Whether or not a clinic offers abortion services at any given point in time is typcially a function of demand and the availability of appropriate staff and other resources. 60% of all abortions are performed within 8 weeks, and 90% within 12 weeks. Almost all clinics cover those time frames. Roughly 1% of abortions is performed between 20 and 24 weeks. About one clininc in five is still in the picture at 20 weeks, about one in twelve at 24 weeks. Very few clinics are capable of handling abortions after 24 weeks, and very few are performed past that point.

[Rggr]

Originally Posted by cousinsal

It sounds like they weren't disposing of it properly. We use those red biohazard bags in our lab, and they are periodically picked up.

Why the hell were those people picking through it? It's not exactly safe to do that.

Of course, there are fetal remains if it's a place where they do abortions.

I agree. It sounds like improper disposal.
It's a very emotional issue so people go to great lengths. I wouldn't pick through it. It's not like you don't know what they're doing until you investigate.

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by TexianPatriot

State's rights issue. There is nothing in our Constitution that protects a woman's right to terminate the life of another, regardless of the stage of development of that life. By having consentual sex, doesn't a person give the fetus a right to fully develop into a human child? I mean, that is what naturally occurs from sex, is it not?

What gives the fetus the right to leech off of a person's nutrients if they don't want the fetus though?

Anyways, if they didn't properly dispose of medical waste, then I see why they were cited. However, it's not nearly as horrible as the pro-lifers are trying to make it sound. Most abortions are done before any body parts can be seen, where you can't even tell the difference between the fetus and the other tissue that comes out from abortion.

[akm4]

John, so unlike you. If you want to report news, share stories, then go ahead! Just don't add inflammatory language to the headline to mislead readers.

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by Upton

Fetal remains could mean anything. One thing it doesn't mean is whole babies, which is what the thread title seems to suggest. Just more typical anti choice BS.

what the hell do you suppose it means? fetal remains = fetal remains. remnants of a fetus. human remains = hair, bones, teeth, skin, blood etc = remains of a once human


of course its not whole babies. abortions usually tear the body apart. no longer whole.

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by Freebird2007

what the hell do you suppose it means? fetal remains = fetal remains. remnants of a fetus. human remains = hair, bones, teeth, skin, blood etc = remains of a once human


of course its not whole babies. abortions usually tear the body apart. no longer whole.

When most abortions are performed, there is no body TO tear up.

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by Langlen

When most abortions are performed, there is no body TO tear up.

are you living in some fairly land?

google abortions