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08-22-2008, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by saganista
Contradicted in part by the subsequent paragraph...
Her group prompted the official investigation after a monthlong search allegedly uncovered biomedical waste including blood-soaked gauze and about 300 medical documents in dumpsters outside of the Lathrup Village office and two other WomanCare facilities in Metro Detroit.
Note particularly use of the word "allegedly". Did authorities proceed on the basis of anything more than what was reported by an anti-choice group? Results of the recent official investigation appear to be limited to warrants for improper disposal of medical records. This follows notice last March for improperly mixing medical and other waste.
Charges of dumping babies in the trash have apparently not been filed.
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True; it does seem unclear what specifically was found.
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08-22-2008, 10:39 AM
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silent observer
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Originally Posted by Langlen
And I could make the argument that God has no problem with abortions, and God didn't make our world, a scientific method that makes planets did. God's a fickle thing.
Anyways, we are all parasites. And until we come up with the technology where a fetus can live on its own from conception, it will be a parasite as well, violating the bodily domain of its mother.
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How is it a parasite when it is produced from your own genetic material? Your own flesh and blood. Your own DNA.
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08-22-2008, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Freebird2007
what does driving a car and being refused health care have to do with invasion of someones body through negligence?
you gotta love stupidity
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When you drive the car, you consent to the possibility of getting into an accident and getting injured. So why should you get healthcare, if you consented to this risk?
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08-22-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot
How is it a parasite when it is produced from your own genetic material? Your own flesh and blood. Your own DNA.
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Just because it's my own DNA doesn't go against my point. It sucks the nutrients out of the mother, and causes the mother a whole host of medical problems. It is a parasite, maybe a wanted one, maybe unwanted, but a parasite nonetheless.
Note I say all this, and I'm a father.
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08-22-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Langlen
When you drive the car, you consent to the possibility of getting into an accident and getting injured. So why should you get healthcare, if you consented to this risk?
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do you drive a car to get into an accident? if I am not mistaken, from a biological standpoint sex was for procreation. so if you engage in sex you are engaging in activities that will result in an offspring unless you take measures to avoid such incidents. You don't want a car accident? take precautions not to get into one
besides you don't say, oh crap...I got into an accident, let me pay you $300 and lets forget about it and go on our way
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08-22-2008, 10:44 AM
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silent observer
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Originally Posted by Langlen
Just because it's my own DNA doesn't go against my point. It sucks the nutrients out of the mother, and causes the mother a whole host of medical problems. It is a parasite, maybe a wanted one, maybe unwanted, but a parasite nonetheless.
Note I say all this, and I'm a father.
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What makes your parasitic existance any more important than the parasitic existence of a fetus? Are you that self righteous? Are you worthy of such life? Shall we gather around and worship the ground you walk on? Shall you play God with human life? Will you determine which parasites are worthy of life and which aren't? Are retards not entitled to life? What about black and jews? The diseased? The hungry? The poor?
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08-22-2008, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Langlen
Just because it's my own DNA doesn't go against my point. It sucks the nutrients out of the mother, and causes the mother a whole host of medical problems. It is a parasite, maybe a wanted one, maybe unwanted, but a parasite nonetheless.
Note I say all this, and I'm a father.
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I can hear your doctor now "congradulations! you are now the proud father of a parasite!"
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08-22-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Freebird2007
do you drive a car to get into an accident? if I am not mistaken, from a biological standpoint sex was for procreation. so if you engage in sex you are engaging in activities that will result in an offspring unless you take measures to avoid such incidents. You don't want a car accident? take precautions not to get into one
besides you don't say, oh crap...I got into an accident, let me pay you $300 and lets forget about it and go on our way
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Not everyone has sex to get pregnant. Pregnancy is a side effect of sexual acts, but not the only reason TO have sex. Many people have sex simply for pleasure, not to get pregnant. If this wasn't true, then what is the reason for the female clitoris?
I'm not saying shirking the responsibility for the other person's car, I'm talking about your own health care.
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08-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot
What makes your parasitic existance any more important than the parasitic existence of a fetus? Are you that self righteous? Are you worthy of such life? Shall we gather around and worship the ground you walk on?
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The fact that I am actually a contributing member of society. A fetus isn't. Am I worthy of such life? No. Is anyone? No. It just simply IS. I'm not asking anyone to worship me, either.
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08-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Langlen
Not everyone has sex to get pregnant. Pregnancy is a side effect of sexual acts, but not the only reason TO have sex. Many people have sex simply for pleasure, not to get pregnant. If this wasn't true, then what is the reason for the female clitoris?
I'm not saying shirking the responsibility for the other person's car, I'm talking about your own health care.
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I didnt say everyone has sex to get pregnant. but the original need for sex was the need to procreate. pregnancy is not a side effect. it is the goal. but us humans have found out...damn...sex is good! so we take precautions to avoid pregnancy if we don't want one. If you want to have sex and not have a kid...use contraceptives BEFORE IT HAPPENS. Don't be the idiot who gets into an accident and says "damn, I should have worn a seatbelt"
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