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08-22-2008, 10:49 AM
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silent observer
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Originally Posted by Langlen
The fact that I am actually a contributing member of society. A fetus isn't. Am I worthy of such life? No. Is anyone? No. It just simply IS. I'm not asking anyone to worship me, either.
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Are you able to see the future? Are you able to determine whether or not that fetus would have been a contributing member to society? Who are you to deny the rights of the unborn who cannot speak for themselves?
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08-22-2008, 10:50 AM
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Gourmet Gamer Chef
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Originally Posted by Freebird2007
I didnt say everyone has sex to get pregnant. but the original need for sex was the need to procreate. pregnancy is not a side effect. it is the goal. but us humans have found out...damn...sex is good! so we take precautions to avoid pregnancy if we don't want one. If you want to have sex and not have a kid...use contraceptives BEFORE IT HAPPENS. Don't be the idiot who gets into an accident and says "damn, I should have worn a seatbelt"
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And what happens when one DOES use precaution? People still do get pregnant while on birth control. And like I said, most doctors won't sterilize if you are young or have not had a child yet without a sound medical reason other than "I just want to have sex and not have children."
The original need might've been for procreation, but that is not the need anymore. Sex is not solely for procreation, and shouldn't be tied down as such
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08-22-2008, 10:51 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Langlen
The fact that I am actually a contributing member of society. A fetus isn't. Am I worthy of such life? No. Is anyone? No. It just simply IS. I'm not asking anyone to worship me, either.
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so healthy active people on welfare are parasites unworthy of life and should be rid of.....
DAMN! are you a republican? I like you all of a sudden!
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08-22-2008, 10:51 AM
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Gourmet Gamer Chef
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Originally Posted by TexianPatriot
Are you able to see the future? Are you able to determine whether or not that fetus would have been a contributing member to society? Who are you to deny the rights of the unborn who cannot speak for themselves?
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I don't care about the future. For all I know, in the future,the fetus could become the next Hitler. The unborn have no rights according to the constitution anyways.
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08-22-2008, 10:53 AM
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Gourmet Gamer Chef
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Originally Posted by Freebird2007
so healthy active people on welfare are parasites unworthy of life and should be rid of.....
DAMN! are you a republican? I like you all of a sudden!
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Never said that. Welfare may be broken, but not all people who are on welfare fall under that stereotype. I have a few family members who are on welfare, simply because they got into a bad situation. Welfare gets them out.
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08-22-2008, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Langlen
And what happens when one DOES use precaution? People still do get pregnant while on birth control. And like I said, most doctors won't sterilize if you are young or have not had a child yet without a sound medical reason other than "I just want to have sex and not have children."
The original need might've been for procreation, but that is not the need anymore. Sex is not solely for procreation, and shouldn't be tied down as such
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people have a very slim chance of getting pregnant even without using contraceptives and ejaculating inside the woman. and pregnancy that occurs while on bc are very very rare.
and in this day and age if you REALLY REALLY do not want to get pregnant one could double up....birth control pills and condoms then progress to the age where they can get snipped.
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08-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Langlen
Never said that. Welfare may be broken, but not all people who are on welfare fall under that stereotype. I have a few family members who are on welfare, simply because they got into a bad situation. Welfare gets them out.
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as you have said previously....how do you know the next fetus ain't the next Hitler? how do you know the people will break off of welfare? how do you know what they will do? how do you know what the fetus will do? maybe he/she will be the person that finds the cure for cancer or space travel
problem is, you don't
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08-22-2008, 10:55 AM
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Gourmet Gamer Chef
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Originally Posted by Freebird2007
people have a very slim chance of getting pregnant even without using contraceptives and ejaculating inside the woman. and pregnancy that occurs while on bc are very very rare.
and in this day and age if you REALLY REALLY do not want to get pregnant one could double up....birth control pills and condoms then progress to the age where they can get snipped.
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And yet pregnancy can still occur. The only way to completely get rid of the chance to get pregnant is for one of the partners to get rid of their testes or ovaries. As even when you get snipped or tied, the body can heal.
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08-22-2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Langlen
And yet pregnancy can still occur. The only way to completely get rid of the chance to get pregnant is for one of the partners to get rid of their testes or ovaries. As even when you get snipped or tied, the body can heal.
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one has a better chance of winning the megamillions jackpot.......twice.....in a row
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08-22-2008, 11:02 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Langlen
And yet the "baby" cannot live on its own for the 16-20 week period. Until the fetus can live on its own, I cannot see any anti-abortion arguments that hold water.
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Why do you think you know more than those of us who have been there? I had 2 abortions, both under 12 weeks. Both times they asked me," Do you want to know the sex of your BABY?" Hmmm, wait a minute....What's all this "it's not human BS?"
The abortion clinics are all in it for the money. They don't care about the patient. They care only about getting you in, ripping your BABY out of you and getting you out of the bed so they can do it again...it's all about the money and YOUR arguement will never hold water with someone who has been there and done that.
Oh they stand for woman's right allright....woman's rights to give them money to kill their flesh and blood....legally.... Such a deceiving program going on isn't it? They got you convinced.
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