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Old 01-07-2011, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Because it is so much easier than busting butt to become successful.

People that actually work for a living don't generally become rich, it's the ones who let other people work FOR them that do.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:04 AM
 
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People that actually work for a living don't generally become rich, it's the ones who let other people work FOR them that do.
Maybe so but being rich as opposed to his question "why do people choose to be poor" is quite different.
People can in fact work really hard and make a nice living. While not rich they are certainly not poor! Also people who are good savers even on a relatively modest salary can enjoy a nice life as well.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I have noted, as Woody Guthry observed, that "them that work the hardest are the least provided".

Most people do as best thay can with what they got. Many have not got very much and never did. They do not choose poverty, they are stuck with it.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Talking why do so many people choose to be poor?

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I have always wondered this myself. we all know that poverty is a choice, so why do so many chose to live in it? with all the government grants, educational opportunities, and other government programs out there, why do so many choose to do so little? show me a poor person, and I will show you a reason. unless you are physically or mentally disabled, there is no excuse for being poor.

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Old 01-07-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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People that actually work for a living don't generally become rich, it's the ones who let other people work FOR them that do.
Yes!!!!.......

I work right on the rig too but, you are right.

As long as you are only making money for others, you become limited.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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How does the OPs point of view account for religious forms of poverty, for the sake of their immortal souls? Not all poverty is bad or made by bad choices.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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People that actually work for a living don't generally become rich, it's the ones who let other people work FOR them that do.
Yes, plus the added benefit (to society) of non-entrepreneurs (employees) getting hired and paid. Win-Win-Win situation all around (biz-man benefits, employee benefits and society benefits)

Ain't capitalism GREAT!!!???? Yes, it IS.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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I have noted, as Woody Guthry observed, that "them that work the hardest are the least provided".

Most people do as best thay can with what they got. Many have not got very much and never did. They do not choose poverty, they are stuck with it.
Guthrie's observation holds true ONLY under one, narrowly-defined set of circumstances, to wit, that you consider "work", as in "work the hardest" only to encompase brute physical labor.

Obviously brute physical labor doesn't (and properly doesn't) pay much, and never will.

However, a brain surgeon who spends hours hunched over a patient, focusing with all his mental powers to repair whatever damage exists, is also working incredibly hard, but does so for a nice piece of coin.

Accordingly, the Guthrie quote has only the most limited applicability, and certainly anything but universal trueness.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: US, California - federalist
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In my opinion, poverty and being poor has more to do with structural forms of friction in the market for labor. Consider how many people would be in poverty or be poor, if they were required to be hired if they want to work (in a hypothetical right to work State).
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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I have always wondered this myself. we all know that poverty is a choice, so why do so many chose to live in it? with all the government grants, educational opportunities, and other government programs out there, why do so many choose to do so little? show me a poor person, and I will show you a reason. unless you are physically or mentally disabled, there is no excuse for being poor.
Show me a poor person, and 9 times out of 10, I'll be able to show you a worthless, lazy bum, or at the best, an ambitionless-wasterel.
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