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Old 08-28-2008, 11:29 AM
 
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I dont get the O'Reilly hatred,He is tough on the left but many times the right..
As well.Yes he ask's tough questions and is hard-hitting.
He has actually been pretty fair to Obama and takes heat from alot of conservatives.
I guess the hard-left just hate any conservative moderate or otherwise.
Reminds me of all the people who hate Rush but have never actually listened to him.
Im conservative but i listen/watch lefty shows sometimes.

It's not hard to understand why they hate him.....

They believe in communist type ideas for our society....why stop at free speech or the right to voice ones opinion.....at least he stays number 1 which tells me the far left loonies are a minority.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:30 AM
 
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That's all he does.....illegal immigration this, and that. Mexico, Mexico, Mexico this and that....close our borders. Indians, this and that, taking our jobs this and that. Immigrants don't show appreciation for the services they receive yadah, yaday, yadah.This guy hates everyone who is not caucasian - and he uses the 'middle class' phrase to spout his hatred. What a fat old bastard he is.
Calm down now. I have not heard him say anything ever about white americans this and that. I do agree with him about illegals entering the country. My view is millions of jobs are outsourced to save money, millions of jobs are taken here at home by illegals to same money. My taxes are going up through the roof, my health insurance has increased 500%, my house has dropped $100,000 in price and fuel cost are sky rocketing. Yes it is hurting the middle class big time and the middle class in my neck of the woods are African Americans, Hispanics, Albanians, Italians, Greek etc. etc. We are all hurting.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Oh, God, if I hear O'Reilly (or any other neocon cheerleader) say one more time that Iraq was justified because Saddam killed thousands of people, I think I'll vomit. If that's our rationale for invading countries, why aren't we in China, whose brutal dictators have killed millions?

What a clown. Nice to see him get owned in these clips.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Oh, God, if I hear O'Reilly (or any other neocon cheerleader) say one more time that Iraq was justified because Saddam killed thousands of people, I think I'll vomit. If that's our rationale for invading countries, why aren't we in China, whose brutal dictators have killed millions?

What a clown. Nice to see him get owned in these clips.
Look, when liberal RINO neo-cons control the playground (exec branch), why pick on someone closer to your size militarily like China or N. Korea?
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA
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So anyone that doesn't agree with Bill-O, Rush, or Dobbs views is a liberal. Whether you are a liberal/conservative or left/right, you are an idiot if you lend your ears to these clowns mentioned above. That's my story, my personal opinion - and i am sticking to it.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:40 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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It's not hard to understand why they hate him.....
Let's be honest... I don't agree with 100% of the things he says.. but when the man has a staff of 20 to bring facts (not just statistics, which could say what they want... but facts to back up the statistics), it's hard to argue against him.

Most other news shows (MSNBC primarily) just find stats to pad their opinion without fact. I love when they say ".. and a recent poll of Americans show that most Americans are really for Obama..." and you look and it says that only 1,642 people were polled. No demographic information. Last I checked, we're over 300,000,000. I don't count 1600 people as a "sampling"... and where did they get them from? San Francisco?

He (O'Reilly) is extreme in his opinion... but I've yet to see anyone he has on his show to debate him be 1/2 as prepared or be close to providing factually-based information to debunk him.

So.. the worst people can say is "he spews hatred." Let's see... letting illegal people just come in and live in our society doesn't breed hatred? Providing a safehaven for illegal alien criminals doesn't breed hatred? Increasing my taxdollars on seriously flawed social programs doesn't breed hatred? Installing revolving doors in prison enabling repeat offenses by serious/heinous offenders doesn't breed hatred?

And when these issues are addressed... they are spewing hatred. They speak for a large population in America... majority or not. So, just because they aren't the views of some, they shouldn't be mentioned?

Explain to me the logic in this, please.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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Calm down now. I have not heard him say anything ever about white americans this and that. I do agree with him about illegals entering the country. My view is millions of jobs are outsourced to save money, millions of jobs are taken here at home by illegals to same money. My taxes are going up through the roof, my health insurance has increased 500%, my house has dropped $100,000 in price and fuel cost are sky rocketing. Yes it is hurting the middle class big time and the middle class in my neck of the woods are African Americans, Hispanics, Albanians, Italians, Greek etc. etc. We are all hurting.

You say your house dropped $100,000......was that from a few months/years ago when it was up $300,000?

Your taxes are going up? Since when? and what %? I'm looking at the progressive tax scale as we speak and unless your making MORE money your tax liability hasn't gone.

Fuel Cost are rising. When compared to the rest of the world we are still much much much cheaper....and right in line with where it should be....we were actually getting a tax break for many many many years.

You say middle class.....average American makes $44k/year putting us in the top 1% of the world.


Could it be we were riding high and now we are settling down a bit and people are freaking.....

A lot of America saw a huge increase in income over the past 8 years so they started blowing money and using credit like there was no tomorrow....literally....credit isn't money that's "free" as a lot of people would like to think....now things have settled back down and everyone is freaking because they were riding at the top of the wave.....eventually the wave crashes and another behind it follows.....like the ocean.


I'm not saying you did all these things but the perception the sky is falling is absolutely uncalled for.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You say middle class.....average American makes $44k/year putting us in the top 1% of the world.
I'm not saying you did all these things but the perception the sky is falling is absolutely uncalled for.
You forgot to mention that you're paid in a currency that lost significant value against virtually every other currency in the world for the last 5 years.

In Zimbabwe I can make 100M dollars an hour flipping burgers.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Bill O’Riley is a very sane man. He merely lacks scruples of any kind and will continue to say whatever is required to keep up the ratings and the income. If fairness, responsibility and other liberal ideas would bring in viewers, O'Riley would be left of Lenin.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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Let's be honest... I don't agree with 100% of the things he says.. but when the man has a staff of 20 to bring facts (not just statistics, which could say what they want... but facts to back up the statistics), it's hard to argue against him.

Most other news shows (MSNBC primarily) just find stats to pad their opinion without fact. I love when they say ".. and a recent poll of Americans show that most Americans are really for Obama..." and you look and it says that only 1,642 people were polled. No demographic information. Last I checked, we're over 300,000,000. I don't count 1600 people as a "sampling"... and where did they get them from? San Francisco?

He (O'Reilly) is extreme in his opinion... but I've yet to see anyone he has on his show to debate him be 1/2 as prepared or be close to providing factually-based information to debunk him.

So.. the worst people can say is "he spews hatred." Let's see... letting illegal people just come in and live in our society doesn't breed hatred? Providing a safehaven for illegal alien criminals doesn't breed hatred? Increasing my taxdollars on seriously flawed social programs doesn't breed hatred? Installing revolving doors in prison enabling repeat offenses by serious/heinous offenders doesn't breed hatred?

And when these issues are addressed... they are spewing hatred. They speak for a large population in America... majority or not. So, just because they aren't the views of some, they shouldn't be mentioned?

Explain to me the logic in this, please.

I see him go at both sides.....not sure if you mis-understood my POV.

O'rielly is number 1 for a reason because he is fair..Only when the person is being absolutely obnoxious and not allowing anyone else's opinion to be heard will he end the discussion. I saw him do it only once and the guy refused to let anyone else on the show or O'rielly even comment.
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