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Old 09-19-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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There are book smarts and real world smarts. A good education plus real world experience leads to the most qualified people, generally speaking. There are always the Bill Gates exceptions, but an education provides many tools for a person to succeed and also broadens their horizons. There are benefits to a good education that go beyond simply increasing personal income.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:17 AM
 
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There are book smarts and real world smarts. A good education plus real world experience leads to the most qualified people, generally speaking. There are always the Bill Gates exceptions, but an education provides many tools for a person to succeed and also broadens their horizons. There are benefits to a good education that go beyond simply increasing personal income.

Of course, well put.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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No, not well put. Limiting the concept to 'books' misses the main point. Long before there were books, there were poeple who stood out in society because the possessed the kinds of smarts that we call "book smarts".

Intelligence is the innate capacity to use books and many, many other windows to the world, to gather and integrate what is available to be learned. The curiosity to gather a number of low-value pieces of information , and the mental organization to assemble them nto a single, unified high-value piece of information.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:56 AM
 
Location: In My Own Little World. . .
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Intelligence is the innate capacity to use books and many, many other windows to the world, to gather and integrate what is available to be learned. The curiosity to gather a number of low-value pieces of information , and the mental organization to assemble them nto a single, unified high-value piece of information.
Does intelligence also include being able to construct a complete English sentence? I refer to your last sentence which is missing a verb.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Sorry, but proving Fermat's last theorem has little relevance to MOST people's everyday lives. And you assume that my hairdesser could not learn this simply because she's a hairdresser. That's an elitist supposition on your part.

There is more than one type of intelligence. This website will introduce you to 9 types of intelligence. Being able to master complicated mathematical problems is only ONE type.
The Nine Types of Intelligence.

I repeat my previous statement: let's not confuse intelligence with education.
Why you jumpin on jtur88 for this so called elitism, when you didn't jump on the OP for his cut on some "college edumacated, blah blah blahs" who can't do his $100K job? Is the OP somehow saying that colleged educated individuals aren't as worthy as non-colleged educated individuals?

Also, OP - you're saying that education doesn't equal intelligence, but intelligence equals dollars? Not so my friend. It seems as though you're trying to state that education or no education all people are created equal, *except* you're better since you are making $100k per year without going to college.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:05 AM
 
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If your hairdresser, in school, had shown any promise at all of being a potential mathemetician or engineer or financier or doctor, she would not be hairdresser. It is the limited amount of recognized intelligence that left her with limited career opportunities.
Again, this is an elitist supposition on your part. I have, in my family, a Princeton Unversity grad, who also graduated at the top of his class from Georgetown University Law school. He now works as a carpenter because he HATED law and LOVES working with his hands. Don't assume that everyone who doesn't go to college, couldn't go to college. It may be true in the case of my hairdresser, but don't assume that of every trade person you meet.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:28 PM
 
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[quote=jtur88;5335246]No, not well put. Limiting the concept to 'books' misses the main point. Long before there were books, there were poeple who stood out in society because the possessed the kinds of smarts that we call "book smarts".

Intelligence is the innate capacity to use books and many, many other windows to the world, to gather and integrate what is available to be learned. The curiosity to gather a numborer of low-value pieces of information , and the mental organization to assemble them nto a single, unified high-value piece of information.[

OR failing that control the means of force which is what happenned 99%
of the time.GEEEEEZzzzz
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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"Ability" enables us to post a thread in CD's Politics Section.
"Intelligence" enables us to walk away after hearing the dribble many people have to offer.
PS: I am able, not intelligent
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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No, not well put. Limiting the concept to 'books' misses the main point. Long before there were books, there were poeple who stood out in society because the possessed the kinds of smarts that we call "book smarts".

Intelligence is the innate capacity to use books and many, many other windows to the world, to gather and integrate what is available to be learned. The curiosity to gather a number of low-value pieces of information , and the mental organization to assemble them nto a single, unified high-value piece of information.
Whatever. Point remains that a good education assists individuals in developing and honing their curiosity and their "gathering and integration" skills, and in deciding how to best focus those skills.

They are thus better equipped to apply what they have integrated and honed in their work and in their personal lives.
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Does intelligence also include being able to construct a complete English sentence? I refer to your last sentence which is missing a verb.
The second "sentence" is a phrase, an additional object to the original "Intelligence is . . ." from the first sentence. A common device in compositon. (Note that I just did it again.) The two could have been separated by a semicolon instead of a full-stop, which would have made your diagramming assignment a little more orthodox. But because of their length, I exercised poetic license (permissible in English, but not French or Spanish) and opted for better clarity and comprehension.
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