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Old 10-24-2008, 09:22 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Actually Iraq is settling down..Even Obama states Iraq is improving...is he lying?



Like the firefighter who ignites a fire and expects recognition as a hero for extinguishing it, settling down violence that is our own creation is hardly praiseworthy.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And many will be sent off to Afghanistan, where conditions are getting worse, after e were told years ago that the Taliban had ceased to exist.
They had at that time....however having a safe haven(still) in the border regions of Pakistan allowed them to reform.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:59 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Like the firefighter who ignites a fire and expects recognition as a hero for extinguishing it, settling down violence that is our own creation is hardly praiseworthy.
Who is asking for praise?

Simply pointing out the truth.

Or is Obama lying about Iraq improving?
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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They had at that time....however having a safe haven(still) in the border regions of Pakistan allowed them to reform.

Safe haven for who/what? We were told they had CEASED TO EXIST.


Just another example of the baseless lies the current misleadership has been responsible for.

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Old 10-24-2008, 10:31 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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LOL.....if a pest control company sprayed for roaches and they ceased to exist in your home but then moved in from your neighbors you would somehow think you were lied to????

The Taliban is a political/religious(intertwined in Islam) group....
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:32 AM
 
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Who is asking for praise?

Simply pointing out the truth.

Or is Obama lying about Iraq improving?
No, I think Bush is lying about Iraq improving, at least as far as it applies to Iraq being a threat to the US. And many interviews with Iraqis haven't been postive about US actions either.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:37 AM
 
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Obama stated Iraq was improving....is he lying?

Simple enough question.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:42 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Can you support this assertion?
mideast admires strong men. the west does not grasp this at all. our hard right grasps it but keeps sending john wayne to do the job but insist on richard simmons behavior. i am no stranger to the mideastern community. the assertion that by taking out sadaam we made a mess is not a wild accusation. i love my country (america), but we dont have a clue about the mideast, not a clue. al bundy behavior all the way.
why is it every time there is a post that the hard right wants "proof" but when its provided they ignore it. people hear and see just what they want.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:49 AM
 
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mideast admires strong men. the west does not grasp this at all. our hard right grasps it but keeps sending john wayne to do the job but insist on richard simmons behavior. i am no stranger to the mideastern community. the assertion that by taking out sadaam we made a mess is not a wild accusation. i love my country (america), but we dont have a clue about the mideast, not a clue. al bundy behavior all the way.
why is it every time there is a post that the hard right wants "proof" but when its provided they ignore it. people hear and see just what they want.
I agree,due to our not wanting to offend we messed up in Iraq.

It was funny how right after the invasion and total defeat of the Iraqi military,other middle eastern nations were scared to death of us...THEN we started in with the be careful not to injure anyone or offend their sensibilities...

That is sadly the new way of fighting wars.

Wars worked much better when you totally destroyed the will of your enemy to resist.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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LOL.....if a pest control company sprayed for roaches and they ceased to exist in your home but then moved in from your neighbors you would somehow think you were lied to????

The Taliban is a political/religious(intertwined in Islam) group....


Nice spin attempt but no cigar,

We weren't told they'd ceased to exist in Afghanistan, we were told they'd ceased to exist. So yes, I think I was.........no, wait, I KNOW I was lied to.
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