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Old 10-22-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers, FL
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I looked into doing that for our home. It is so expensive. I guess in the long run it would pay off though. It makes alot of sense for commercial use however.
yes, plus with homes its pretty gaudy. but it is a means to relieve the power grid tomorrow.

my neighbors actually instead a free solar powered water heater for their pool on the roof. florida power has something on their website paid for by the state has a fund each year (it ran out by july) that reimburses for it fully and they install it. but i think its costs close to $8k - $12k for the complete system.

a lot of people don't know that solar power has come a LONG WAY in 20 years and still hasn't gotten the funding for advancement. but the efficiency is a lot better these days. plus it can be made to look like roof tiles and with thin film and in collect sunlight in 3-dimensional. you cant even tell its there anymore. i think the break even point is still 10 years, but you are completely off the grid.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:13 PM
 
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The most brilliant oil minds in the US say drilling here now won't help.

What more do you want?
WASHINGTON – The U.S. exploration and production industry’s drilling activity continues to outpace last year’s levels and is nearly twice the level seen in the 1990s, according to API’s third quarter 2008 drilling estimates.
“These numbers demonstrate the oil and natural gas industry’s commitment to finding new sources of oil and natural gas to increase U.S. production,” said Hazem Arafa, director of API’s statistics department.
According to API’s 2008 Quarterly Well Completion Report: Third Quarter, an estimated 16,379 oil wells, natural gas wells and dry holes were completed in the third quarter of 2008, up 16 percent from the third quarter a year ago. API’s estimates show that the resurgence in oil well completion activity that began in 2000 is continuing into 2008. An estimated 6,244 oil wells were completed in the third quarter of 2008, up 34 percent from last year’s third quarter and the highest third quarter estimated oil activity in over two decades.


US Q3 oil drilling activity up 34 percent from year ago - API

The federal drilling moratoria that have locked up vast amounts of the nation’s oil and natural gas resources for years will expire on September 30. If the right actions are taken going forward, this could mean more ample and secure energy supplies for the American people, more U.S. jobs, and less reliance on imported oil. It could help reduce the costs of energy for transportation, for electric power production, and for home and office heating and cooling. Our lifestyles, our economic strength, and our national security all depend on ready availability of adequate supplies of energy. If we don’t take steps to control our energy destiny, we put at risk a better future for ourselves and for the generations that follow. Large domestic supplies of oil and natural gas are critical to our energy future. Alternatives are important but cannot yet substitute for the vast amounts of the oil and natural gas we now use and are projected to continue to demand.

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Old 10-22-2008, 06:15 PM
 
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Feed Law Powers Germany to New Renewable Energy Record
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers, FL
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great article.
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:52 PM
 
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All they have to offer is oil. If we develop alternative sources of energy, they have nothing else to offer. Why do you think the French dont care. Back in the 70s, the made the decision that the Sandy a$$es will not bend them over again and built Nuke plants.

I wish they would embargo us again

it would suck for a while but once we dont need them, they will need us and we can turn our backs on them....
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:11 PM
 
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great article.
Germany had a good idea. When you want to achieve something quick and efficiently. Give the means of production to the power of the people and support them fully in that idea. Not take it over and dictate.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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OPEC vows to jack up gas prices to ruin US economy.

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Obama still out there thinking inflating tires and NOT drilling will fix the problem!
Easy for him to say, he makes over $250,000 a year and probably hasn't purchased a tank of gas on his own ever since his campaign begun.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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OPEC vows to jack up gas prices to ruin US economy.

And
Obama still out there thinking inflating tires and NOT drilling will fix the problem!




OPEC Pushing to Cut Production, Drive Up Oil and Gasoline Prices

Tuesday , October 21, 2008


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Just as Americans are finally beginning to reap the benefits of plunging gasoline prices — including more money in their pockets — OPEC is getting ready to squeeze them once again by cutting oil production and driving up prices to refineries.


The 13-nation global oil cartel — which includes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Iran and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela — will hold an emergency meeting in Vienna Friday to discuss the steep and rapid decline in oil prices.
"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.


When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

FOXNews.com - OPEC Pushing to Cut Production, Drive Up Oil and Gasoline Prices - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News
Tire pressure: Wasting 1.2 Billion Gallons

Let's start with tire pressure. Even McCain finally admitted Aug. 5 that keeping tires properly inflated is a good idea and can save fuel:
McCain: Obama said a couple of days ago says we all should inflate our tires. I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it.
He's right; they do (http://www.aaanewsroom.net/main/Default.asp?CategoryID=4&ArticleID=576 - broken link). And government experts agree:According to FuelEconomy.gov (http://fueleconomy.gov/***/maintain.shtml - broken link), a Web site jointly administered by the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency, "You can improve your gas mileage by around 3.3 percent by keeping your tires inflated to the proper pressure."


Source FactCheck.org: The Truth About Tire Pressure
OMG, did McCain admit to that?
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:26 PM
 
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look you guy it'll go back up regardless. If Obama wins at least us lil people might can buy some gas for work and some white bread to go with our hotdogs. If mccain wins, we will all end up in the soup line.
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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GAO: The Department of Energy’s designated economist on this issue indicated that, of the 130 billion gallons of fuel that the Transportation Research Board (TRB) estimated were used in passenger cars and light trucks in 2005, about 1.2 billion gallons were wasted as a result of driving on underinflated tires.

That figures out to be just under 1 percent of all fuel consumed by autos and light trucks. But would saving 1.2 billion gallons of fuel per year equal the expected increase in oil production from opening up offshore areas to drilling? For the next several years, yes. But after that, probably not, according to the best estimates we can find.

They are assuming every single car would benefit from proper tire inflation and they are also assuming no one checks their tire pressure.

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