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Old 10-23-2008, 07:32 AM
 
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Originally Posted by eastidahomom View Post
Tire pressure: Wasting 1.2 Billion Gallons

Let's start with tire pressure. Even McCain finally admitted Aug. 5 that keeping tires properly inflated is a good idea and can save fuel:
McCain: Obama said a couple of days ago says we all should inflate our tires. I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it.
He's right; they do (http://www.aaanewsroom.net/main/Default.asp?CategoryID=4&ArticleID=576 - broken link). And government experts agree:According to FuelEconomy.gov (http://fueleconomy.gov/***/maintain.shtml - broken link), a Web site jointly administered by the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency, "You can improve your gas mileage by around 3.3 percent by keeping your tires inflated to the proper pressure."


Source FactCheck.org: The Truth About Tire Pressure
OMG, did McCain admit to that?
But how many Americans are driving around on soft tires? [/SIZE][SIZE=3] According to a National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration 2001 survey, 26 percent of passenger cars and 29 percent of light trucks were found to have at least one tire that was 25 percent below the manufacturer's required level. That's more than a quarter of all motorists running on one or more soft tires. So the savings could certainly add up. But add up to what?


Here is another warning. If you are still driving on tires from 2001 you need to change them immediately. 4-5 years are max for tires. Tire manufacturers are making tires more advanced than ever and the tires of 2001 pale in comparison to the current technology.

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Old 10-23-2008, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Va Beach
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Change over to nitrogen in tires versus air and you will bring up your mileage a tad!
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Old 10-23-2008, 07:56 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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I think our greed and arrogance pretty much ruined our economy and everyone else's for that matter already!!
Greed, siphoning off the flow of funds to subsidize deadbeats in inefficient housing, cloaked around the do-good rhetoric of the "ownership" society, is what has sunk our and everybody else's economy.

And we are poised to do the same again, and through additional channels, cloaked around some slightly altered do-good rhetoric like "fairness" or other drivel, arrogantly refusing to crack open a spreadsheet to see what works and what doesn't work in terms of the following equation:

production - consumption = saving + investment.

For as long as this equation and its productivity parameter are not the pivot-point of economic policy, we will be, as it were, over a barrel.

By the way, drill here and now couldn't hurt, and it would stimulate at least some sort of productive investment.

Other areas could be nuclear power plants, gassified coal, rail transport, and other investment along those lines, without ridiculous ideological straitjackets.


Good Luck!
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:01 AM
 
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Very simple example.

A drug addict.

The addict when they run out of money go to where they can get money.

When they find somewhere they can get money they stay there till it's depleted or it stops getting handed out.

Then they find another source. Welfare makes that source extremely easy as they take money out of 60% of Americas pocket to feed the 40% that pay no taxes. Instead of them having to find money it will come in the mail to wherever they are.

The same exact example is called positive reinforcement for negative actions. Other people call it welfare.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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Originally Posted by eastidahomom View Post
Tire pressure: Wasting 1.2 Billion Gallons

Let's start with tire pressure. Even McCain finally admitted Aug. 5 that keeping tires properly inflated is a good idea and can save fuel:
McCain: Obama said a couple of days ago says we all should inflate our tires. I don’t disagree with that. The American Automobile Association strongly recommends it.
He's right; they do (http://www.aaanewsroom.net/main/Default.asp?CategoryID=4&ArticleID=576 - broken link). And government experts agree:According to FuelEconomy.gov (http://fueleconomy.gov/***/maintain.shtml - broken link), a Web site jointly administered by the Department of Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency, "You can improve your gas mileage by around 3.3 percent by keeping your tires inflated to the proper pressure."


Source FactCheck.org: The Truth About Tire Pressure
OMG, did McCain admit to that?
You are shocked that McCain agrred with something that most people have known for years or that Obama supporters are taking it as if Obama thought it up?
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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But how many Americans are driving around on soft tires? [/SIZE][SIZE=3] According to a National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration 2001 survey, 26 percent of passenger cars and 29 percent of light trucks were found to have at least one tire that was 25 percent below the manufacturer's required level. That's more than a quarter of all motorists running on one or more soft tires. So the savings could certainly add up. But add up to what?


Here is another warning. If you are still driving on tires from 2001 you need to change them immediately. 4-5 years are max for tires. Tire manufacturers are making tires more advanced than ever and the tires of 2001 pale in comparison to the current technology.


Exactly right. It's nice to see someone finally checking facts. Now then, did you take note that McCain finally agreed with Obama on this subject?
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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You are shocked that McCain agrred with something that most people have known for years or that Obama supporters are taking it as if Obama thought it up?
Quit picking fights. Did I say that? Or did you perhaps misconstrue my post and the quote that I cited?
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:39 PM
 
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OPEC vows to jack up gas prices to ruin US economy.

And
Obama still out there thinking inflating tires and NOT drilling will fix the problem!




OPEC Pushing to Cut Production, Drive Up Oil and Gasoline Prices

Tuesday , October 21, 2008


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Just as Americans are finally beginning to reap the benefits of plunging gasoline prices — including more money in their pockets — OPEC is getting ready to squeeze them once again by cutting oil production and driving up prices to refineries.


The 13-nation global oil cartel — which includes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Iran and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela — will hold an emergency meeting in Vienna Friday to discuss the steep and rapid decline in oil prices.
"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.


When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

FOXNews.com - OPEC Pushing to Cut Production, Drive Up Oil and Gasoline Prices - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News


if we don't like it, perhaps we should stop being so dependent on them! they are sovereign nations and as such should be able to sell as much or as little of their oil for as much or as little as they like!

our shortsightedness is the real problem. gas prices come down and off we go to purchase a new escalade. if however we were more responsible and bought smaller cars, drove less etc we could really hurt them, bring oil down really low and not cripple our economy with war spending!
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:42 PM
 
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A drip of gas wont hit your car for 10 years if we started drilling today.

The general consensus is that the rogue oil states will step up the soaking of Americans in expensive oil just because they know at some point we wont rely on it.

They will squeeze us dry for the next 10 years and get every last dime out of us that they can.

We need to lower their prices another way while we keep our own oil production and alternative energy development as secretive as possible.

Showing the US energy hand has been a disgrace and a threat to our national security.

More work less talk!
exactly
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:51 PM
 
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The funny thing about that 10 year time frame is that many were pushing for more drilling more than 10 years ago.

If we wait another 5 years to start drilling then guess what, it will still be 10 years before we get the oil.

That has the be the most overused, useless sentence in the whole drilling debate.
the problem with that is we deplete our reserves first. 50 years ago we were one of the biggest exporters of oil. this is a fact which many people don't get. what happened to our massive wells? they're almost dry. if we go into anwar now, in 20 years we won't have our trump card and we'll really be screwed.
in the short run up in price our consumption dropped buy a small percentage and really hurt opec. the more we lower our consumption the harder the likes of iran and venezuela get hit
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