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Old 02-19-2007, 03:00 PM
 
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Story in today's New York Times:

Al Qaeda Chiefs Are Seen to Regain Power

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/wo...pagewanted=all

From the story:

"Officials said that both American and foreign intelligence services had collected evidence leading them to conclude that at least one of the camps in Pakistan might be training operatives capable of striking Western targets. A particular concern is that the camps are frequented by British citizens of Pakistani descent who travel to Pakistan on British passports."


First off, I have to wonder how accurate this story is, given the fact that this administration has been known to pass inaccurate tips to the New York Times. (We know this from the Scooter Libby trial and from Judith Miller's testimony. When they have an agenda, it's best to tell the NYT.)

However, if the story is true, what are we doing in Afghanistan to prevent Al Qaeda from reorganizing? And why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden?
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:14 PM
 
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It is known that Al Qaeda grew from a bare few thousand before the Iraq debacle to over 20,000 today.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:43 PM
 
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Story in today's New York Times:

Al Qaeda Chiefs Are Seen to Regain Power

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/wo...pagewanted=all

From the story:

"Officials said that both American and foreign intelligence services had collected evidence leading them to conclude that at least one of the camps in Pakistan might be training operatives capable of striking Western targets. A particular concern is that the camps are frequented by British citizens of Pakistani descent who travel to Pakistan on British passports."



First off, I have to wonder how accurate this story is, given the fact that this administration has been known to pass inaccurate tips to the New York Times. (We know this from the Scooter Libby trial and from Judith Miller's testimony. When they have an agenda, it's best to tell the NYT.)

However, if the story is true, what are we doing in Afghanistan to prevent Al Qaeda from reorganizing? And why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden?
You'll notice that this story references camps in Pakistan, a country we are prohibited from entering. We do need to pressure Masharif to allow to hunt for OBL and his ilk.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:49 PM
 
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Why? he knows they are there, and he keeps us out, sounds like time for Condi Rice, oh, oops, she has been there.

Musharraf is playing the US, surely you did not think Bin Laden was in a cave in Afghanistan.

This is another example of a completely xxxed up war on terror
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:14 PM
 
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This is from another story in the NYT today -- the story about the attack on the American base that killed 2 and wounded 17:

"American and Iraqi officials said their was little doubt that Sunni militants, most likely Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, was responsible for the attack. There were no reports of how many militants were killed."



Sunnis are backed by Saudi Arabia, not Iran.

I've started to pay more attention to who the attackers are in these stories since Bush keeps claiming Iran is behind a lot of the attacks but Iran is backing the Shiites, not the Sunnis.

Many of the 9/11 hijackers were also from Saudi Arabia.

It appears to me that we value our friendship (and oil) with Saudi Arabia more than we value American lives...??? I find this quite perplexing.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:18 PM
 
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It appears to me that we value our friendship (and oil) with Saudi Arabia more than we value American lives...??? I find this quite perplexing.
Apparently you do not understand Conservative political practice
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:12 PM
 
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Apparently you do not understand Conservative political practice
Ummmm.... I think I get it... We'll attack Iran because the Saudis keep attacking us!
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Story in today's New York Times:

Al Qaeda Chiefs Are Seen to Regain Power

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/19/wo...pagewanted=all

From the story:

"Officials said that both American and foreign intelligence services had collected evidence leading them to conclude that at least one of the camps in Pakistan might be training operatives capable of striking Western targets. A particular concern is that the camps are frequented by British citizens of Pakistani descent who travel to Pakistan on British passports."


First off, I have to wonder how accurate this story is, given the fact that this administration has been known to pass inaccurate tips to the New York Times. (We know this from the Scooter Libby trial and from Judith Miller's testimony. When they have an agenda, it's best to tell the NYT.)

However, if the story is true, what are we doing in Afghanistan to prevent Al Qaeda from reorganizing? And why haven't we caught Osama bin Laden?
There you have it, Conservative Cheerleaders everywhere. The sum of the results of your "war on terror". Congratulations. Own it.
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:18 AM
 
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Ummmm.... I think I get it... We'll attack Iran because the Saudis keep attacking us!
Why not? We already attacked Iraq because most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi and none were from Iraq...
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Old 03-04-2007, 12:34 AM
 
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Why not? We already attacked Iraq because most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi and none were from Iraq...

These terrorist are from iraq, there's a video clip at the bottom of the third picture...but it may not be for everyone to view...it's graphic.



http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/worldnews (broken link)
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