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Old 10-07-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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What does the bible have to do with civil marriage law?
Religious extremists believe they live in a theocracy.

 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Default Vic 2.0

Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God?
Don't fool yourselves.
Those who indulge in sexual sin,
or who worship idols,
or commit adultery,
or are male prostitutes,
or practice homosexuality,
or are thieves,
or greedy people,
or drunkards,
or are abusive,
or cheat people-
none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
Some of you were once like that.
But you were cleansed;
you were made holy;
you were made right with God
by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)


It's pretty clear to me
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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What does the bible have to do with civil marriage law?
To those that don't believe in the Bible nothing whatsoever , listen homosexual marriage is already here.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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Corinthians 6:9-11
Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God?
Don't fool yourselves.
Those who indulge in sexual sin,
or who worship idols,
or commit adultery,
or are male prostitutes,
or practice homosexuality,
or are thieves,
or greedy people,
or drunkards,
or are abusive,
or cheat people-
none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
Some of you were once like that.
But you were cleansed;
you were made holy;
you were made right with God
by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
and by the Spirit of our God. (NLT)


It's pretty clear to me
Except, homosexual was not added to that verse until 1958 A.D. It has never in history meant that until that point. And Philo, a Jewish legal expert, and contemporary of Paul said he was condemning pagan prostitution. The word in question was invented by Paul and etymologically cannot refer to homosexuality, because it doesn't include women and its a singular word.

http://www.clgs.org/arsenokoités-an...d-consequences

I get the impression you don't actually care about truth, you are merely looking for excuses to justify your prejudice.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)




Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)

to those who believe in the word of God we have a reason to oppose homosexual marriage , but I consider It Just A Tempest In A Tea Cup.. Homosexual Marriage will most likely be Law In 30 to 40 years in all states.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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1 Timothy 1:8-10
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine ... (ESV)
Same issue as 1 Corinthians. It's the same made up word that is used here, that wasn't translated to homosexuality until 50 years ago.



Quote:
Jude 7
And don't forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God's judgment. (NIV)
Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with gays. Read Judges 9. It refutes that stupid myth extremists like you cling to. Sodom comes from Hebrew and has absolutely no correlation to anything sexual. The word Sodom and the word Sodomy do not come from the same word.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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]Except, homosexual was not added to that verse until 1958 A.D. [/b] It has never in history meant that until that point. And Philo, a Jewish legal expert, and contemporary of Paul said he was condemning pagan prostitution. The word in question was invented by Paul and etymologically cannot refer to homosexuality, because it doesn't include women and its a singular word.

http://www.clgs.org/arsenokoités-an...d-consequences

I get the impression you don't actually care about truth, you are merely looking for excuses to justify your prejudice.

OK Mitt Romney whatever you say , by the way great debate and show some links of somebody writing the bible in 1958.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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OK Mitt Romney whatever you say , by the way great debate and show some links of somebody writing the bible in 1958.
Writing the Bible in 1958 A.D? You are aware the Bible was not written in English right? Homosexuality was not even discovered when the Bible was written.
 
Old 10-07-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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Same issue as 1 Corinthians. It's the same made up word that is used here, that wasn't translated to homosexuality until 50 years ago.





Sodom and Gomorrah had nothing to do with gays. Read Judges 9. It refutes that stupid myth extremists like you cling to. Sodom comes from Hebrew and has absolutely no correlation to anything sexual. The word Sodom and the word Sodomy do not come from the same word.
Lot offered to give the men trying to knock down his door his daughters instead of his MALE guest to have sexual intercourse with , but low and behold they preferred the MEN what do you call these type of men(?)
 
Old 10-07-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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Howest2008, I did not ask for proof that the modern-day Bible says homosexuality is wrong; I'm aware that it does. I pointed out that there is a debate going on as to whether or not what's written in the modern-day Bible is what was written in the original text. Fiyero re-posted the link I gave you just now if you'd like to learn more. (Note: Your denial is not ample counterargument.)

Now there are some statements made by you I did challenge you to prove biblical, which you have not done. Here they are:

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now if GOD says that a marriage is one man and one woman under christianity and one man and multiple woman under the law of moses " anything different to that is a sin unto GOD meaning that all homosexual marriages are a sin.
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God allowed men to have multiple wives " because of the hardness of theirs hearts.
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Adam and Eve were perfect and a role model for every person to come after them.
BONUS, for extra points: Find "Don't let gays marry, but disregard what I said here about remarriage" somewhere in the Bible.
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