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View Poll Results: Should the LDS Mormon Church lose its tax exempt status?
Yes, the Mormon Church should lose its tax exempt status 25 30.49%
No, contributions by members are not the same as the church itself 23 28.05%
Yes, all churches are businesses and should be taxed as businesses 28 34.15%
Maybe, if a clear violation of applicable laws is established 6 7.32%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-15-2008, 05:10 AM
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Location: My own piece of land and happiness
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At the request of the LDS Mormon Church, church members contributed $22 million to pass California's Proposition 8 against gay marriage.

This is a clear violation of anti-lobbying regulations regarding charitable organizations.

Revoke LDS Church 501(c)(3) Status

strange I dont see ACORN, the sierra club, a whole lot of socialist liberal groups not losing their tax exempt status?
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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The Church broke no laws.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:02 AM
 
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LDS Church EIN is 23-7300405

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Internal Revenue Bulletin - June 1, 2004 - Rev. Rul. 2004-50

Section 501(c)(3) describes corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literacy, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in section (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distribution of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.
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http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

Substantial Lobbying Activity
In general, no organization, including a church, may qualify for IRC section 501(c)(3) status if a substantial part of its activities is attempting to influence legislation (commonly known as lobbying). An IRC section 501(c)(3) organization may engage in some lobbying, but too much lobbying activity risks loss of tax-exempt status.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:13 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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All churches, including the political ones, should have no or limited tax exempt status. There are too many church organizations that hold too much property and own businesses.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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LDS Church EIN is 23-7300405
Okay, but what part of tax laws did the Mormon Church break?

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no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual,

No one in the leadership of the LDS Church, from the President in Salt Lake all the way down to local congregational leaders are paid. Never have been.

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tantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in section (h)),

The Church did not devise Prop 8, did not run Prop 8 and did not donate as an institution, one penny to the Yes on 8 Campaign.

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and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distribution of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.
None of the above mentioned violations were committed by the Church. However in October, we had general conference from Salt Lake and it seemed on Sunday morning our leaders were indirectly endorsing Barack Obama. No specific mention but we heard calls for unity, hope, service. But I digress.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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There are too many church organizations that hold too much property and own businesses.
Every for-profit business owned by the Mormon Church pays taxes.
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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Petition to Change the Tax-code and Challenge The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Tax-exempt Status : politics
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Old 11-15-2008, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland
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I really hope it goes to Court. No judge in their right mind is going to tell a Church that it cannot encourage its adherants to support causes that perpetuate their most fundamental beliefs.

Good luck with that.
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Old 11-15-2008, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Turn Left at Greenland
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I really hope it goes to Court. No judge in their right mind is going to tell a Church that it cannot encourage its adherants to support causes that perpetuate their most fundamental beliefs.

Good luck with that.
As much as I'D LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the LDS or any other church lose it's exemption under 501(c)(3), Montclair is right regarding the clergy for the LDS church ... they don't get paid ... big fat loophole, which is a big co-ink-a-dink.

I do, however, strongly believe that the heat should be turned up and protests should linger, as Lazlo Toth so duely said back in the Nixon days, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.
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Old 11-15-2008, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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At the request of the LDS Mormon Church, church members contributed $22 million to pass California's Proposition 8 against gay marriage.

This is a clear violation of anti-lobbying regulations regarding charitable organizations.

Revoke LDS Church 501(c)(3) Status
70% of blacks voted to ban gay marriage. You are going after the wrong group!
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