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Old 01-25-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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The problem with that is that it's not just another medical procedure...whether people like to think so or not, it is a human life that is being ended. That IS a matter for the state.

Generally, I agree with you...the state needs to stay out of most things...but when someone is being murdered, which is what it is, all euphemisms aside, that is one of the main purposes of government.

You make a good point, though...we're enough problem on our own without sending even more money overseas, for ANY reason, let alone to fund abortion.
That is what your RELIGION says. Science does not agree that abortion, as far as what is legal right now, is murder. So since your OPINION is based on your RELIGION it has not place in legislation since it isn't backed up by science.

 
Old 01-25-2009, 06:40 PM
 
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That is what your RELIGION says. Science does not agree that abortion, as far as what is legal right now, is murder. So since your OPINION is based on your RELIGION it has not place in legislation since it isn't backed up by science.
lol, if you knew me, the last thing that you would accuse me of is letting religion determine my beliefs.

Ok, when does science say that someone becomes human?
 
Old 01-25-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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Translation: I post ridiculous and irrational stuff and when I get called on it, it make me feel good to think it's the other person that's goofy in the head.
A sudden collapse of faux confidence and coherence is testimony enough I think that your position is not actually defensible. The points and questions I have posed are logical, consistent, and relevant. You reply only with stammerings.
 
Old 01-25-2009, 06:42 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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That is what your RELIGION says. Science does not agree that abortion, as far as what is legal right now, is murder. So since your OPINION is based on your RELIGION it has not place in legislation since it isn't backed up by science.
Don't bother. Dunkel doesn't seem to know how to form legitimate responses to logical, rational and/or scientific thought.

But then again, it's actually quite humorous when he attempts [<----operative word] to accuse you of being the one who is incapable of intelligent debate.
 
Old 01-25-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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A sudden collapse of faux confidence and coherence is testimony enough I think that your position is not actually defensible. The points and questions I have posed are logical, consistent, and relevant. You reply only with stammerings.
If that's what it takes for you to maintain your self-esteem, go for it.
 
Old 01-25-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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Don't bother. Dunkel doesn't seem to know how to form legitimate responses to logical, rational and/or scientific thought.

But then again, it's actually quite humorous when he attempts [<----operative word] to accuse you of being the one who is incapable of intelligent debate.
Ok, maybe YOU can tell me when science has determined when it actually becomes a human being then.
 
Old 01-25-2009, 08:36 PM
 
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Don't bother. Dunkel doesn't seem to know how to form legitimate responses to logical, rational and/or scientific thought.

But then again, it's actually quite humorous when he attempts [<----operative word] to accuse you of being the one who is incapable of intelligent debate.
That's pretty much why the ignore user feature exists.
 
Old 01-25-2009, 08:56 PM
 
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Ok, maybe YOU can tell me when science has determined when it actually becomes a human being then.
It hasn't and it won't. The development of a new human being occurs over a continuum. You are attempting to draw bright lines -- as if it were a process of discrete steps. This is indicative of a fundamental misunderstaning.
 
Old 01-26-2009, 04:23 PM
 
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Ok, maybe YOU can tell me when science has determined when it actually becomes a human being then.
Science has never proven such, and probably won't ever be able to do so, because our scientific capabilities do not allow us to measure such abstract notions of time and matter.

If science hasn't been able to determine the exact and universal moment of transistion between "lump of cells" and "human being," your personal or 'moral' opinion (or anyone else's opinion, for that matter) regarding the moment that said transition occurs, has absolutely no bearing and is completely irrelevant.

Saganista is correct. Your responses to date are indicative not only of fundamental misunderstanding of science, human development or the realities behind unplanned pregnancy in America, but a total lack of desire to ever actually understand the things that you so vehemently argue for or against.
 
Old 01-26-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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Ok, maybe YOU can tell me when science has determined when it actually becomes a human being then.
I know what the law says. You cannot get an abortion after the first trimester unless your life is in danger. A fetus cannot live without the mother until much later. It is not a separate person and does not have more rights than the woman who would have to carry and nourish it.
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