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View Poll Results: Do You support euthanasia for non-contributing members of society?
Yes 6 8.82%
No 60 88.24%
Undecided 2 2.94%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2008, 08:12 AM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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oh, just shoot me
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Although we cannot punish people like jihadist for their inflammatory and morally wrong ideas we can simply ignore them and not respond to the provocation.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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umm yes anyone is capable of altering a persons quote.

you should be imbarrassed because it is pretty obvious to anyone reading your posts. you should try harder next time
It's pretty sad that you just can't understand that I didn't alter her quotation. If you go back and look at the posts, the quotation was from Connie, but apparently some signal got crossed and the header put the other person.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:59 AM
 
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So your "new" ideas are basically the Nazi T-4 program and 19th Century Social Darwinism.

Do you have any ideas that are from the past 50 years or at least not evil?
When did i ever say any of these ideas are "new"? This is the perfect outline for recreating social darwinism/eugenics and Nazism.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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Do you ever feel guilt? Do you empathize with the pain and discomfort of others?
Why would jihadist feel guilt? He is doing a service to humanity by ridding us pure types from the bad blood of the disabled, retarded, and criminal.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:03 AM
 
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When did i ever say any of these ideas are "new"? This is the perfect outline for recreating social darwinism/eugenics and Nazism.
Then I am assuming that your opening post was ironic and somehow a jab at euthanasia and abortion and possibly liberal eugenics.

Or that you are a scumbag...
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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When did i ever say any of these ideas are "new"? This is the perfect outline for recreating social darwinism/eugenics and Nazism.

Ok. Have you ever read 'The Giver'? Great book. Creating a Utopian society, which is basically what you're trying to do, is probably not a great idea. What next? Elderly... children with disability.... certain religions.... certain afflictions... I have a genetic disorder, but I work full time and contribute to society but I'm assuming since I'm 'genetically inferior', I'd be euthanised?
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:05 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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Why would jihadist feel guilt? He is doing a service to humanity by ridding us pure types from the bad blood of the disabled, retarded, and criminal.

If they put down criminals than S.Florida will have close to no politicians or any officials .

What will we do?
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:28 AM
 
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Although we cannot punish people like jihadist for their inflammatory and morally wrong ideas we can simply ignore them and not respond to the provocation.

The ultimate punishment for a "flamer" is to be ignored. This has not happened here. OP has simply rented Soylent Green one too many times....
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: S.Florida
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If I have Alzheimer's then I am not me anyway. Rather than keep a shell of a human being alive and placing a heavy burden on my family, I am all for euthanasia.

Yes but that is your decision not the gvmts or some agencies.
Having said that my grandfather lived of sound mind for over 10 yrs other than small minor memory losses when he had Alzheimer's.

The meds did wonders so dont be to fast to take yourself out if you ever get it but I do agree that is a personal choice just not thev gvmts or any agency.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land
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Do you ever feel guilt? Do you empathize with the pain and discomfort of others?
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Why would jihadist feel guilt? He is doing a service to humanity by ridding us pure types from the bad blood of the disabled, retarded, and criminal.
I didn’t intend for those questions to be answered in the context of this thread by the abstract Jihadist. I was asking the author, the OP, direct questions about himself. I should have clarified that.

Empathy is a trait possessed by about 96% of humanity. The level of incidence is about the same among the most productive, intelligent and logical members of humanity. Most people want to live a happy and fulfilling life. No one who empathizes with the pain and suffering of others is capable of living a happy and fulfilling life while knowingly playing a role in a large scale culling of the population since this would conflict with their empathy toward others. Therefore, it's clearly not in the self-interest of the majority of even the most productive, civilized and intelligent members of society to support euthanasia, abortion and sterilization of the likely non-contributors of society.

Culling the population may or may not be in the self-interest of the remaining 4% of humanity, the sociopaths among us, an even smaller percent of whom are likely to be productive and civilized members of society, depending upon their own unique, personal motivations. I'm sure the majority of these people couldn't care less about building a stronger society.

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