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Old 11-18-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It's said that 50% of all pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned.

Do you think its better to focus on preventing unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancies by improving access to contraceptives rather than focusing on making abortion a crime?

Anti-Choice Advocates Oppose Measures That Actually Decrease the Abortion Rate? | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/107615/anti-choice_advocates_oppose_measures_that_actually_dec rease_the_abortion_rate/#more - broken link)


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Frustrated by the failure to overturn Roe v. Wade, a growing number of antiabortion pastors, conservative academics and activists are setting aside efforts to outlaw abortion and instead are focusing on building social programs and developing other assistance for pregnant women to reduce the number of abortions.
Some of the activists are actually working with abortion rights advocates to push for legislation in Congress that would provide pregnant women with health care, child care and money for education — services that could encourage them to continue their pregnancies.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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I'm all for prevention of unwanted pregnancies and curtailing abortion whenever possible, but catholicism still hangs onto the idea that birth control isn't kosher.

I'm thinking this might be why chinese officials are so frosty to the pope-- you know, the guy selling "be fruitful and multiply" to a dangerously over populated nation? Call me kooky, but 20 million babies without food is grist for revolutions.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:48 PM
 
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Yeah, give 'em Melamine!!
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I'm all for prevention of unwanted pregnancies and curtailing abortion whenever possible, but catholicism still hangs onto the idea that birth control isn't kosher.

I'm thinking this might be why chinese officials are so frosty to the pope-- you know, the guy selling "be fruitful and multiply" to a dangerously over populated nation? Call me kooky, but 20 million babies without food is grist for revolutions.
I know a lot of Catholics and the no birth control rule is ignored by most.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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sans that's been my experience as well with catholics, however, when church leadership is slow to realize what is/isn't working... chastity is great. Can't anyone be chaste?

<listens to crickets>

I almost feel like the advent of birth control was the moment men became completely blind to women beyond sexual value... "free love" was very expensive in terms of human worth and dignity. Kids these days wanting a "f*ck buddy" are very disturbing to me. Makes me wonder if I really am the last dodo bird attaching meaning to sexuality. Iyam what Iyam either way.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:11 PM
 
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It's said that 50% of all pregnancies in the U.S. are unplanned.

Do you think its better to focus on preventing unplanned and/or unwanted pregnancies by improving access to contraceptives rather than focusing on making abortion a crime?

Anti-Choice Advocates Oppose Measures That Actually Decrease the Abortion Rate? | PEEK | AlterNet (http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/107615/anti-choice_advocates_oppose_measures_that_actually_dec rease_the_abortion_rate/#more - broken link)
I think its better to focus on the FACT that having sex can lead to a pregnancy.

Sex isn't like water and food....you don't need it to live.

If you're going to have sex, make sure you're SMART enough to have some type of protection.

If sex only led to little creepy crawlies running around your nether-parts, who would care so much?

A little antibiotic or the AIDs coctail? You're ok.

It's not about sex or easier access to contraception, it's about the end result. I would care LESS if unprotected sex could ONLY bring someone a genital wart or 2.

Babies (fetuses) have been de-humanized so they are just a by-product of sex anymore.

Keep your legs closed or your buddy in your pants if you are NOT willing to protect yourself from an STD (which could end your life or you could be like Paris Hilton) or creating what (should you not abort it) a little, tiny, sweet and innocent baby.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand?
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:11 PM
 
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I'm all for prevention of unwanted pregnancies and curtailing abortion whenever possible, but catholicism still hangs onto the idea that birth control isn't kosher.

I'm thinking this might be why chinese officials are so frosty to the pope-- you know, the guy selling "be fruitful and multiply" to a dangerously over populated nation? Call me kooky, but 20 million babies without food is grist for revolutions.

The population of Americans is not growing much, the reason the population is growing so rapidly is the result of immigration. And the immigrants are having loads of babies. The population growth of American citizens is actually pretty flat, the only reason the population here is doubling every few decades is the result of a very large influx of people moving in.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:14 PM
 
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sans that's been my experience as well with catholics, however, when church leadership is slow to realize what is/isn't working... chastity is great. Can't anyone be chaste?

<listens to crickets>

I almost feel like the advent of birth control was the moment men became completely blind to women beyond sexual value... "free love" was very expensive in terms of human worth and dignity. Kids these days wanting a "f*ck buddy" are very disturbing to me. Makes me wonder if I really am the last dodo bird attaching meaning to sexuality. Iyam what Iyam either way.

Well I'm chaste, but not by choice.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The population of Americans is not growing much, the reason the population is growing so rapidly is the result of immigration. And the immigrants are having loads of babies. The population growth of American citizens is actually pretty flat, the only reason the population here is doubling every few decades is the result of a very large influx of people moving in.
That's a good thing.
The world is overpopulated anyway.
Americans may not be having a lot of babies but people in other countries are and they want to reach the American standard of living (cosuming a lot).
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:20 PM
 
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malmute yes indeed, I did notice. I attribute regular citizen statistically flat as a result of my generation taking birth control seriously, and taking personal responsibility more frequently when it came to affording to bring children into the world. Republican mentality of my neighborhood at least, but I certainly can see how that mentality is in so many words saying poor people shouldn't be permitted to reproduce.
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