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Thanksgiving is a myth in many ways. The Pilgrims did eat turkey, but they didn't eat mashed potatoes and they probably mostly ate seafood (it was in New England).
I tend to agree with this article.
[URL="http://www.vernoncoleman.com/thetruth.htm"]The Truth About Thanksgiving[/URL]
This is very interesting too.
[URL="http://www.trinicenter.com/historicalviews/thanksgiving.htm"]trinicenter.com - The Truth about The First Thanksgiving[/URL]
However, there certainly is nothing wrong with having a holiday like Thanksgiving on which we give thanks for what we have and think about the unfortunate people who have nothing. Maybe that should be everyday.
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How interesting. I have worked with various Native American tribes for years all over this nation, and every site I visited, EVERYONE (Native and non-Native) would stand in a circle, say a prayer, do some chanting, then have turkey and dressing together. No mention of who was the savage or who killed who, just a nice time eating and talking, spending time with each other.
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For me ... Thanksgiving involves thanking my Lord for all of His many blessings in my life and for spending valuable time with my family. Please pass the turkey ...
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I tend to agree with this article.
However, there certainly is nothing wrong with having a holiday like Thanksgiving on which we give thanks for what we have and think about the unfortunate people who have nothing. Maybe that should be everyday.
I agree. As long as thinking about 'the unfortunate people...' means making sure they have something to be thankful for too.
Dedicated to those who would take the joy out of holidays.
Thanksgiving comes to us out of the prehistoric dimness, universal to all ages and all faiths. At whatever straws we must grasp, there is always a time for gratitude and new beginnings. ~J. Robert Moskin
What we're really talking about is a wonderful day set aside on the fourth Thursday of November when no one diets. I mean, why else would they call it Thanksgiving? ~Erma Bombeck
"An empty stomach is not a good political adviser" - Albert Einstein
I love Thanksgiving turkey. It's the only time in Los Angeles that you see natural breasts. ~Arnold Schwarzenegger
Thanksgiving Day, a function which originated in New England two or three centuries ago when those people recognized that they really had something to be thankful for - annually, not oftener - if they had succeeded in exterminating their neighbors, the Indians, during the previous twelve months instead of getting exterminated by their neighbors, the Indians. Thanksgiving Day became a habit, for the reason that in the course of time, as the years drifted on, it was perceived that the exterminating had ceased to be mutual and was all on the white man's side, consequently on the Lord's side; hence it was proper to thank the Lord for it and extend the usual annual compliments. ~Mark Twain
I have strong doubts that the first Thanksgiving even remotely resembled the "history" I was told in second grade. But considering that (when it comes to holidays) mainstream America's traditions tend to be over-eating, shopping, or getting drunk, I suppose it's a miracle that the concept of giving thanks even surfaces at all. ~Ellen Orleans
Thanksgiving is a myth in many ways. The Pilgrims did eat turkey, but they didn't eat mashed potatoes and they probably mostly ate seafood (it was in New England).
I've also heard, though I'm not sure it's true, that they actually stole food from the Native Americans, and didn't sit with them.
And you are fully free to act it out in that manner at you house on Thanksgiving.
For me ... Thanksgiving involves thanking my Lord for all of His many blessings in my life and for spending valuable time with my family. Please pass the turkey ...
I agree--few traditions are exact duplications of historic events. Thanksgiving is an opportunity to stop. Review your blessings. Be grateful.
It's the Europeans who were savages. The Natives tried to share everything they had with them but that wasn't enough. They're the ones who began killing, piliging, raping and going back on their word with the Natives, wiping out entire nations/tribes of them. Wiping out their food supply and delivering small pox infested blankets to them to kill them. They made a reputation for themselves so when some tribes saw them coming, they said Not here! and fought for their families and homes the best they could.
That's all the Natives were doing--until they were forced to survive the Europeans attacks. Again, 500 Nations is an excellent source for anyone who wants to see some true American history.
You have watched to many hollywierd neo-history movies havent you
It's the Europeans who were savages. The Natives tried to share everything they had with them but that wasn't enough. They're the ones who began killing, piliging, raping and going back on their word with the Natives, wiping out entire nations/tribes of them. Wiping out their food supply and delivering small pox infested blankets to them to kill them. They made a reputation for themselves so when some tribes saw them coming, they said Not here! and fought for their families and homes the best they could.
That's all the Natives were doing--until they were forced to survive the Europeans attacks. Again, 500 Nations is an excellent source for anyone who wants to see some true American history.
not so. the hollywood noble savage syndrome. iroquoi nation of new england was over the top violent fierce warring nation, law of the wolf prevailed among them, b4 during and after pilgrim arrival. the fact that they and the pilgrims sat down for any reason much less to eat was a miracle. a favorite CDF sport, rewriting history and the news. my favorite is portraying the gangbanger as a misunderstood mr rogers.
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neo-history movies havent you
