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Old 11-26-2008, 06:41 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Stay tuned. Change doesn't happen overnight and he hasn't even gone through the inauguration ceremony yet.

What is clear though is that this country for the last 8 years got a lesson on who and what is wrong with this country ---> Republicans and Conservatives. The world agrees.
On the contrary, it seems like the consensus is that people are happy to blame it on one man, and Obama himself states he wants to find bi-partisan solutions.
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Isn't this change? Instead of wasting billions by repeatedly attacking the same abandoned villages in Iraq then claiming that the surge worked, Obama is going to Afghanistan as a prelude to his getting the man responsible for 9/11 Bin Laden.

It's change you don't understand.
Way to change your post At least we know what you're really thinking though.
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:44 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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On the contrary, it seems like the consensus is that people are happy to blame it on one man, and Obama himself states he wants to find bi-partisan solutions.
The consensus is that Republicans stink, one for all and all for one.
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Old 11-26-2008, 07:14 PM
 
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On the contrary, it seems like the consensus is that people are happy to blame it on one man, and Obama himself states he wants to find bi-partisan solutions.
Oh, god know, I blame the entire Republican Party and a healthy number of Democrats, which is a major reason why Hillary didn't get the nomination.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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More flawed thinking.

1) What proof have you got that the fighting in Iraq prevented attacks here in the US? You have no way of knowing what kind of attacks MIGHT have happened here otherwise. That's pure conjecture on your part.

2) How do you know that US involvement in Iraq didn't result in increased recruitment for AQ (as the International Institute for Strategic Studies believes to be the case)? If this is true then Iraq has resulting in a net INCREASE in AQ forces.

Ken
I think you couldn't have said it better. It works both ways, unless you've got a crystal ball and know how to work it, how do we know what has or hasn't helped.....what would have happened or what will happen.....what's flawed and what isn't.

History will determine that some day. Until now, there's been a war and all the things that come along with war, that's the only thing we know for sure (a lot of dead soldiers and citizens). We may not have realized the true impact this war will have for us and the world yet. It may be good or it may be bad but, that's when people will be able to have true gratitude or blame for our actions in Iraq now.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:23 AM
 
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Karzai: Obama promises to fight terror in region - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081123/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan - broken link)

So much for bringing everyone home within 16 months ehh? I guess the voters never saw it coming?

Say what????

He will be sending them somewhere else soon.
Doesn't matter is Bush or Obama is in charge.

Terrorist are in full force and either president
has nothing to do with the hits...

Wake up, please!
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Old 11-28-2008, 04:14 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Um.. hellow.. Afghanistan is where we are supposed to be!!

Maybe NOW we'll capture Bin Laden..

and we'll get out of Iraq in which many , if not most, of our troops will be home and out of Iraq.

we were looking for more focus on trhe REAL issue.. and now we're going to get it.. finally.

nah, just move them all to afghanistan.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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so, everyone, (before the election thought) the liberal left wing obama party would be soft on terrorism, AH HA, fooled ya! now isn't that something? so, now, is obama the NEW and improved war monger? let's start pointing fingers. and just to think, all of those rumors during the campaign, e.g. obama palin' around with terrorists, he'll bring the troops home, he wasn't born in the US which makes him and his followers (LIBS) un-American, just makes you want to think, now doesn't it? wow man, I think he is already doing a good job, and he hasn't even been sworn in yet.
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Karzai: Obama promises to fight terror in region - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081123/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan - broken link)

So much for bringing everyone home within 16 months ehh? I guess the voters never saw it coming?
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