Merry Christmas! vs. Happy Holidays! (suspect, racism, famous, liberals)

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by schtyk

What is the big deal for the Christian bashers against using Merry Christmas that has bee around longer than anyone that is posting here. Go get your own holiday and leave christians alone. It is Christmas. not Musilmas, taomus,athiemus. Get your own holiday and don't forget to buy me somethin nice.

I don't care how long "Merry Christmas" has been around. Christmas is not the only religious holiday that falls around this time of year, and we should respect that. Hell, I personally don't think we need 2 months devoted to this one holiday. Happy Holidays is a perfect term for this time of year.

[janeannwho]

Originally Posted by JTraik

Christmas is almost upon us... what sort of seasonal greeting/farewell do you use? "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" ?

I personally make an effort to say MERRY CHRISTMAS to people.

Since many faiths have holy days around the same winter solstice time, as a Catholic child, my 5th grade nun told me it was a polite and respectful thing to say Happy Holidays to strangers or friends who religion we did not know. Wishing a happy holy season to one and all is just a kind and charitable wish. I do not understand the problem, for those who celebrate Christ's Mass, I say Merry Christmas, to my Jewish friends, I say Happy Channuka, and for the rest, I say Happy Holiday.

[schtyk]

Originally Posted by Langlen

I don't care how long "Merry Christmas" has been around. Christmas is not the only religious holiday that falls around this time of year, and we should respect that. Hell, I personally don't think we need 2 months devoted to this one holiday. Happy Holidays is a perfect term for this time of year.

I agree with the 2 months part. However, you go on out with those folks that celebrate their made up holidays and celebrate. Maybe in a hundred years or two it will have meaning to a bigger crowd. You will have to ,for now, accept the fact that you are outnumbered no matter how you may hate those that you don't feel kinship with. Look friend, trust me, they are not going to miss you. Mele kalikimaka

[NYRangers 2008]

Originally Posted by gizmo980

Since when aren't kids allowed to wear crosses? I work with kids all day, and see plenty of crosses - especially on the Latino children, which is about 80% of the population where I work. But this is (overall) a very liberal area, so if anyone is "stifling Christianity" we would be the first. I would also like to request a link to this story, because it sounds pretty fabricated to me.

Some kids in my youth group at church here in PA said that in their school they are not allowed to wear crosses. I don't have a link to a story, I'm just going by what the kids said. I think the liberal left-wingers are the cause of all these problems with Christmas and other hot topics. The left-wing bleeding heart liberals are just as dangerous as the extreme religious- right kooks. I see myself as a moderate with leanings to the right.

[NYRangers 2008]

Originally Posted by Langlen

I don't care how long "Merry Christmas" has been around. Christmas is not the only religious holiday that falls around this time of year, and we should respect that. Hell, I personally don't think we need 2 months devoted to this one holiday. Happy Holidays is a perfect term for this time of year.

First of all I don't believe Kwanzaa is real holiday. I think it was made up to appease a certain group of people. It is not recognized as a federal holiday in this country. Neither is Hanukkah for that matter. Most people have off on Christmas Day, which is the 25th. People who are non-Christians get that day off regardless. We don't get Hanukkah or Kwanzaa off. Christmas is the main reason we celebrate during December. Those other holidays may mean something to other people and are part of the "Christmas season", but are not the reason for the season.

[lilypad]

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

First of all I don't believe Kwanzaa is real holiday. I think it was made up to appease a certain group of people. It is not recognized as a federal holiday in this country. Neither is Hanukkah for that matter. Most people have off on Christmas Day, which is the 25th. People who are non-Christians get that day off regardless. We don't get Hanukkah or Kwanzaa off. Christmas is the main reason we celebrate during December. Those other holidays may mean something to other people and are part of the "Christmas season", but are not the reason for the season.

A little history on the origins of Kwanza, by everyone's favorite gal:




RealClearPolitics - Commentary - Kwanzaa: A Holiday From the FBI by Ann Coulter

[jps-teacher]

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

First of all I don't believe Kwanzaa is real holiday. I think it was made up to appease a certain group of people. It is not recognized as a federal holiday in this country. Neither is Hanukkah for that matter. Most people have off on Christmas Day, which is the 25th.

Well, yes - this is sort of my point.

a) We live in a country that claims not to promote a religion, but which has accorded the (fake) birthday of Christ as a federal holiday.

b) All holidays are made up to please a group of people. Making up holidays for the purpose of making people unhappy seems sort of silly, don't you think?

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

People who are non-Christians get that day off regardless. We don't get Hanukkah or Kwanzaa off.

Or Yom Kippur or any other religious holidays, except New Year's Day - another Christian one.

We have to take the day off from most jobs whether we want to or not.

Originally Posted by NYRangers 2008

Christmas is the main reason we celebrate during December. Those other holidays may mean something to other people and are part of the "Christmas season", but are not the reason for the season.

No, they are not a part of the Christmas season - they are part of December - Hanukkah predates Christmas - and is when it is not because Christ was born then, since he wasn't, but because there was another holiday then that the Christians wanted to co-opt.

But, to be honest, the reason for the SEASON, as you put it, is to sell products to parents eager to please their kids. The Christmas Season is modern, not ancient - made up, as you put it, to make money.

Celebrate Christ. Please - I encourage it.

Would Christ want you to be putting down other people and to show disdain for them? Not in the Bible I've read and studied he wouldn't.

How does it show love to other people to throw your groups superior power and numbers in their faces? How does it show your love for Christ?

Color me one puzzled agnostic Jew.

[BuffaloTransplant]

Originally Posted by JTraik

Christmas is almost upon us... what sort of seasonal greeting/farewell do you use? "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" ?

I personally make an effort to say MERRY CHRISTMAS to people.

So do I. The majority of people are celebrating Christmas. If they celebrate something else and I know it, I will add that. I never go to happy holidays.

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by schtyk

I agree with the 2 months part. However, you go on out with those folks that celebrate their made up holidays and celebrate. Maybe in a hundred years or two it will have meaning to a bigger crowd. You will have to ,for now, accept the fact that you are outnumbered no matter how you may hate those that you don't feel kinship with.

LMAO. You do realize that a Jewish holiday occurs at the same time (Chanukah runs right through Christmas this year), and our religion has been around for.... ummmmm... 5769 years, give or take. So we already have our own holiday, thanks, which has been around much longer than Christmas. But I don't insist on pushing Chanukah in your face for 2 months, so can you please stop pushing yours in my face?

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by jps-teacher

We have to take the day off from most jobs whether we want to or not.

Yup... I would GLADLY work on Christmas if they let me, especially if I got a Jewish holiday off in exchange. But no, I am forced to "observe" a Christian holiday, and then I have to use my personal vacation time for the holidays I do care about... Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashana & Passover - that's it, and Passover only requires leaving a bit early. Anyway, don't fault us for being required to take off Christmas, when most non-celebrators would be happy to work.

Would Christ want you to be putting down other people and to show disdain for them? Not in the Bible I've read and studied he wouldn't.

How does it show love to other people to throw your groups superior power and numbers in their faces? How does it show your love for Christ?

Color me one puzzled agnostic Jew.

From one agnostic Jew to another... Amen, and color me puzzled too!