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View Poll Results: Who is the best president since the 1930's?
Franklin D. Roosevelt 21 18.10%
Harry Truman 2 1.72%
Dwight Eisnehower 7 6.03%
John F. Kennedy 4 3.45%
Lyndon Johnson 1 0.86%
Richard Nixon 2 1.72%
Gerald Ford 2 1.72%
Jimmy Carter 1 0.86%
Ronald Reagan 42 36.21%
George H. Bush 1 0.86%
Bill Clinton 22 18.97%
George W. Bush 11 9.48%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-26-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
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Maybe in KY there's more conservative news outlets but here in CA, lefty media rules.

Does the media there espouse increased power for labor unions and single payer health care? Cause if they don't they ain't leftist. I don't see any news organizations that conservatives consider leftist calling for things that are really leftist. Socially liberal yeah but there's a world of difference between social liberals and real leftists and economic liberals.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:59 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Does the media there espouse increased power for labor unions and single payer health care? Cause if they don't they ain't leftist. I don't see any news organizations that conservatives consider leftist calling for things that are really leftist. Socially liberal yeah but there's a world of difference between social liberals and real leftists and economic liberals.
My bad...I should have stated liberal borderlined leftist media.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:13 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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NO. They rejected him to keep cutting and those numbers reflect 'them going over'. They had already CUT the spending IN HALF, yet he wanted more while adding more than ALL democrats ever combined to the national debt for military spend and handouts to the rich. If you think congress spending 2.8% more on needed things caused Reagans Recession you are dead wrong. Try Reagan adding 200% increase to the national debt.
What I posted are the actual figures. No reason not to accept them.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Yes I found the source and posted the link which tells you how dumb you are for believing it. Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism
never intended the data to reflect what Fox are saying, and it simple doesnt. Because it counted things such as even a negative poll result and truth of the campaign that is the media's job to tell us about. McCain LOST he was losing for a long time, sorry but calling those bias story's, just doesnt make sense.

Think Again: What Obamedia?
Using a liberal website as a "source" is not very convincing. Once again, you seem to not be able to accept data.
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I can understand the Reagan love (even if it's WAY overboard, Reagan caused a major market meltdown in 1987 and some other problems as well)
Reagan alone caused that? There were no other factors?
It should be noted that the "major" market meltdown in 1987 did not lead to a recession. In fact, the economy was doing very well in 1987, '88 and '89.
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Old 11-27-2008, 08:18 AM
 
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I'm laughing pretty hard at the "liberal American media" sillyness being stated by some. You clearly need to travel. American media is the most conservative of all Western nations on earth.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I'm laughing pretty hard at the "liberal American media" sillyness being stated by some. You clearly need to travel. American media is the most conservative of all Western nations on earth.
I remember after seeing Sarah Palin speak on CNN during the GOP convention I was waiting to hear the commentators rip on her...and they all praised her. How Liberal of them!

Seriously, I've been to a lot of countries, and our media is by far the most conservative. The closest to "Leftist" we have is MSNBC and they STILL have a number of conservative commentators.

And Conservative is not the same as conservative. Big C conservative follows the church and 1670s views. Small c conservative says "stay out of my wallet and stay out of my home". The GOP used to be the latter, now they are the former. Look at the differences between Ford, Reagan and Bush Jr. There is a clear shift to big spending and intrusive government in just a few decades.

How views from hundreds of years ago will bring about progress is beyond me.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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George Washington was the best,it was all down hill from him,except maybe Teddy R.

But I laugh at those sticking up for Clinton,the traitor taking campaign bribes from Malaysia,giving secrets to China,duping the people with political correctness,the "it is for the children" president who used outright lies to assault the Constitution specially the 2nd amendment.The president with a history of shaddy deals in Little Rock.You all call the Bush's murderers?some Chinese at the embassy in Yugoslavia might have something to say to you........oh they can't,they are dead thanks to Clinton.The if you contribute to my campaign I'll send in marines to reinstall you into power in Haiti....
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:30 PM
 
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George Washington was the best,it was all down hill from him,except maybe Teddy R.

But I laugh at those sticking up for Clinton,the traitor taking campaign bribes from Malaysia,giving secrets to China,duping the people with political correctness,the "it is for the children" president who used outright lies to assault the Constitution specially the 2nd amendment.The president with a history of shaddy deals in Little Rock.You all call the Bush's murderers?some Chinese at the embassy in Yugoslavia might have something to say to you........oh they can't,they are dead thanks to Clinton.The if you contribute to my campaign I'll send in marines to reinstall you into power in Haiti....
Gads! You bought the giant economy size 12-pack of GOP kool aid lies.
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:42 PM
 
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Gads! You bought the giant economy size 12-pack of GOP kool aid lies.
you can add fleet to that one as well.
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