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I find it disgusting since he was having intimate relations with someone who was in a high level position in Fannie Mae
Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Connection (http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080924145932.aspx - broken link)
Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive. Frank has argued that family life “should be fair game for campaign discussion,” wrote the Associated Press on Sept. 2. The comment was in reference to GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin and her pregnant daughter. “They’re the ones that made an issue of her family,” the Massachusetts Democrat said to the AP.
Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk. Frank’s office has been unresponsive to efforts by the Business & Media Institute to comment on these potential conflicts of interest.
While the relationship reportedly ended 10 years ago, Frank was serving on the House Banking Committee the entire 10 years they were together. The committee is the primary House body which along with the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) has jurisdiction over the government-sponsored enterprises. In 1991, Frank and former Rep. Joe Kennedy, D-Mass., lobbied for Fannie to soften rules on multi-family home mortgages although those dwellings showed a default rate twice that of single-family homes, according to the Nov. 22, 1991, Boston Globe.
BusinessWeek reported in its Nov. 14, 1994, issue that Fannie Mae called on Frank to exert his influence against a Housing & Urban Development proposal that would force the GSE to focus on minority and low-income buyers and police bias by lenders regardless of their location. Fannie Mae opposed HUD on the issue because it claimed doing so would “ignore the urban middle class.”
According to an article by Kathleen Day in the Oct. 8, 2003, Washington Post, Frank opposed giving the Bush administration the right to approve or disapprove business activities that “could pose risk to the taxpayers.” He told the Post he worried the Treasury Department “would sacrifice activities that are good for consumers in the name of lowering the companies’ market risks.”
“These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
Frank has also reaped campaign contribution benefits from Fannie Mae and its counterpart Freddie Mac. According a front page story in the Sept. 19, 2008, Investor’s Business Daily by Terry Jones, Frank has received $40,100 in campaign cash over the past two decades from the GSEs.
How about your sweathearts:
George The Deregulator Bush. The squander of 3TRILLION dollars,
Ronald Reagan, the original deregulator,
Dick Deficits Don't Matter Cheney,
Phil The Recession is all in Your Head Gramm the derivatives master mind Phil Gramm - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME.
They all get a free pass in your book while you whine about liberals, socialists and gays?
George The Deregulator Bush. The squander of 3TRILLION dollars,
Ronald Reagan, the original deregulator,
Dick Deficits Don't Matter Cheney,
Phil The Recession is all in Your Head Gramm the derivatives master mind Phil Gramm - 25 People to Blame for the Financial Crisis - TIME.
They all get a free pass in your book while you whine about liberals, socialists and gays?
I thought the title of this thread had something to do about gays and you called the poster out for talking about gay politicians, that in this case are Democrats. What gives?
What do I think about gay PEOPLE,you mean? I think what two consenting adults do is their own buisiness,and don't see what the big freaking deal is! In my experiance,the people who have the problem w/ it are suppressing latent homosexual urges themselves. People who are secure in their heterosexuality usually could care less!
No matter how many times someone tries to declare that people who hate gays must be hiding their own gay feelings, it won't make it true.
So do people who dislike blacks secretly fear that they might be black themselves? Do people who don't like Jewish people live in fear of their own latent Judaism?
Of course not.
Why can't people accept that not everyone is going to agree with or accept homosexuality just because you want them to accept it? Most of us really just don't care, but if pressed will admit that we find the whole thing unnatural and disgusting. So how about this... Stop pressing us. Do whatever you want in the comfort of your own home and quit shoving it down other peoples' throats, and believe it or not, most people really just won't care.
No matter how many times someone tries to declare that people who hate gays must be hiding their own gay feelings, it won't make it true.
So do people who dislike blacks secretly fear that they might be black themselves? Do people who don't like Jewish people live in fear of their own latent Judaism?
Of course not.
Why can't people accept that not everyone is going to agree with or accept homosexuality just because you want them to accept it? Most of us really just don't care, but if pressed will admit that we find the whole thing unnatural and disgusting. So how about this... Stop pressing us. Do whatever you want in the comfort of your own home and quit shoving it down other peoples' throats, and believe it or not, most people really just won't care.
Obviously there are some who are homophobic because of a fear of Homosexuality. Gays are not the ones who shove their gay life down anyone's throats. If Heterosexuals would stop treating "being gay" as if it was something unatural or dirty, then there wouldn't be a problem.
You CANNOT decide to be gay or change how you were created at birth. Being gay is genetic and cannot be preyed away or got rid of by "dating" the opposite sex. If you believe in God then you must come to terms with the fact that God created Gays in exactly the same way that God created Heterosexuals.
No matter how many times someone tries to declare that people who hate gays must be hiding their own gay feelings, it won't make it true.
I'm not going to say that everybody who 'hates' gay folks are hidden gay themselves but there is an alarming amount of people it does hold true. For example, there was a recent poster here who came out that he was struggling with homosexuality. This was after months and months of slamming anything gay in threads and often using very disturbing posts and outright lies to say why homosexuality was such a horrid thing. Also, we have quite a few 'ex' gay posters here who feel the need to thump their chests and make sure their hatred for anything gay is constantly being stated. Makes you wonder if they go on so much about anything gay because they have to 'remind' themselves they 'aren't' gay anymore (you can probably thank their converting counselors for them doing this most likely). Of course not everybody who is against homosexuality is gay themselves but you gotta wonder about the ones who speak the loudest and most often against like it was an obsession.
For most people, its not the "gay person" as much as the acts they choose to engage in. To this straight male, having another mans "member" in the places they choose to is repugnant.
So who is saying you have to join in? I'm sure some of the things you do in your bedroom are repugnant to other people as well, but nobody is telling you that you can't do them.
Maybe I just read it wrong.. but when you responded to this comment 'Oh I think they're great decorators and fashion designers! They also make great hair stylist! Is that what you wanted to read?' with it's not a false statement.. made me think you were stereotyping.. my bad.
I guess I took it that way after reading your post:
'But do you not see the real oddity of that statement. See, you can argue that homosexuality is natural and I would concede to that being a possibility. But to find the reproductive process which virtually all life on this planet is based on "repugnant" seems a little out there. Because the fact remains there would be no life if there was no sexual activity between males and females of all the different species(aside from asexual organisms) Unlike homosexuality, where there is actually room for debate, there is no room for debating the nature of heterosexual activity. It is the process by which life is brought into this world.'
Usually when I hear things like that.. they're coming from people who have an issue with homosexuals in general. I see that you've stated that's not how you feel.. just throwing in my two cents.. I guess I read it wrong. I'm not perfect.
What about my statement could have made you feel I was against homosexuals in general? In that post I was simply disgusing the facts of life and wondering how anyone could find heterosexual sex, which creates all life on this planet(except for asexual organisms), repugnant. Even if a person does not care to engage in said activity they can still appreciate the beauty of the natural process which brings forth life. That is why I thought it was an odd statement.
My statements about homosexuality were very open. I did not condemn homosexuality nor did I deny the chance that it could indeed be a natural occurence. What I did say is there is room for debate when it comes to homosexual sex because it doesn't serve the natural purpose hetero sex does. There is no chance for creation, thus the debate on it's roots in nature. On the other hand, there is no room for debate when dealing with hetero sex because it is the root of reproduction and life. Simply basing my argument on scientific principle. This would seem preferable to the usual grass roots Christian arguments of "it ain't right" and "you are going to hell" I don't believe this to be true. I don't think a person's sexual orientation can automatically condemn them to hell or anywhere else.
I believe a person's actions and the way they live their lives is the most important thing to consider when dealing with people. Not their sexual orientation.
Hope this cleared up any misgivings. I truly wish you a good day and many to come.
I think people forget that a LARGE percentage of gays don't walk around telling people and making it known at work, etc.
Most gays fly under the radar as much as people who are left handed fly under the radar.
Sure you notice people who are left handed at random times, just like you notice very openly gay people at times.
I'm gay and don't really see all the fuss by straight people. What on earth does me getting it on with a guy in my own bedroom have anything to do with your life. I could care less about what you do with your husband/wife.
Live and let live, life is WAY too short. It's not like I woke up one day and decided to be gay just so I could be "out there". It just is what it is. You don't sit there and decide when you're 12 years old "Ok...now am I going to be attracted to the girl on my right, or the guy on my left? Hmmm....". You just KNOW.
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