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This was so tragic and senseless. I live three block away from where the crime occured. Actually, walked down the block today to go to the laundraumat and there was a police car blocking off the street. I'm not sure why though but I'll assume it's to give the coummunity a sense of security.
On another note, I'm fairly certain that this crime was motivated by homophobia/gay hate than anything else. The media is trying to tie this attack into a recent attack of another Ecuadorian immigrant on L.I. They "crafting" a story to make it seem like "Ecuadorians are under attack" in NY. But as an Afro American man, I know the fervor of homophobia/gay hate in the Black community. A group of young Black men ain't jumping out of car to beat a Latino in Bushwick, BK (which is a majority Latino community). But they will jump out of a car to beat up a gay person; or in this case someone they assumed was gay. The Latin slurs were probably included for added effect but racism was secondary to their real motivation for their attack which was to beat up on gay guys.
Well like it or not, in this case it's not going to be a hate crime as far as race because the attackers were not white. It appears that what set off the attackers in this case was the homosexual aspect mainly.
In the previous attack on an Ecuadoran at least two of the attackers were hispanic themselves but that will likely be called an anti-hispanic crime.
Actually: there can be White on White crime which would qualify as a hate crime.
Neo-Nazi's beating up a Jewish person comes to mind---------even if all parties involved were blond haired/blue eyed Nordic White.
This was so tragic and senseless. I live three block away from where the crime occured. Actually, walked down the block today to go to the laundraumat and there was a police car blocking off the street. I'm not sure why though but I'll assume it's to give the coummunity a sense of security.
On another note, I'm fairly certain that this crime was motivated by homophobia/gay hate than anything else. The media is trying to tie this attack into a recent attack of another Ecuadorian immigrant on L.I. They "crafting" a story to make it seem like "Ecuadorians are under attack" in NY. But as an Afro American man, I know the fervor of homophobia/gay hate in the Black community. A group of young Black men ain't jumping out of car to beat a Latino in Bushwick, BK (which is a majority Latino community). But they will jump out of a car to beat up a gay person; or in this case someone they assumed was gay. The Latin slurs were probably included for added effect but racism was secondary to their real motivation for their attack which was to beat up on gay guys.
I think in many neighborhoods there is a larger problem and that is of joblessness and despair that were never addressed.
It was "cheaper" to bring in immigrants in very large numbers than to do job training for inner city youth. We have very large prison populations, youth that grow up in areas with high joblessness while many move in from foreign nations to take what jobs are available and many jobs are only made available to them.
Unfortunately immigrants including legal immigrants are susceptible as are citizens to the high crime rates we see as the result of doing nothing for the populations that most needed something done.
The large populations of unemployed youth will present a big problem not just to legal immigrants but to all people -- and this large population of hopeless youth include many whites as well as blacks and the irony is -- also hispanics.
At least two of the attack on the other Ecuadoran man were hispanics.
From the news stories, it really sounds that he was killed as part of an anti-homosexual attack than for being an immigrant, or at least it was a homosexual hate crime as much as anything. At least it would be best if the pro-illegals didn't try to exploit this poor man's death for their own agenda, unless it is proven he was killed strictly for being an immigrant.
If it was determined as a gaybashing from the outset, it would not have gotten that much attention. Even in a liberal city like Boston, gay bashings are almost never in the media. Sadly, the cops don't usually care either.
How does one tell if a person is of 'brown' Mexican (or any other Latin American) heritage or not if they are not speaking Spanish??
In fact: I once knew a Nordic White woman from Ecuador--------she could not pass for 'Latina' if her life depended on it.
Well, if they thought the victim was nordic white, they wouldn't have shouted anti-hispanic slurs would they? Obviously, the victim looked latino or hispanic to them. If some can even tell someone's legal status just by looking at them, they can surely tell what someone's ethnicity is just by looking at them.
I think in many neighborhoods there is a larger problem and that is of joblessness and despair that were never addressed.
It was "cheaper" to bring in immigrants in very large numbers than to do job training for inner city youth. We have very large prison populations, youth that grow up in areas with high joblessness while many move in from foreign nations to take what jobs are available and many jobs are only made available to them.
Unfortunately immigrants including legal immigrants are susceptible as are citizens to the high crime rates we see as the result of doing nothing for the populations that most needed something done.
The large populations of unemployed youth will present a big problem not just to legal immigrants but to all people -- and this large population of hopeless youth include many whites as well as blacks and the irony is -- also hispanics.
At least two of the attack on the other Ecuadoran man were hispanics.
Where are you getting your information from? Why would hispanic men shout anti-hispanic slurs at a fellow hispanic? It seems to me you are refusing to believe that certain people are incapable of killing another human being just because of their ethnicity or race.
Well, if they thought the victim was nordic white, they wouldn't have shouted anti-hispanic slurs would they? Obviously, the victim looked latino or hispanic to them. If some can even tell someone's legal status just by looking at them, they can surely tell what someone's ethnicity is just by looking at them.
FYI: my step sister gets mistaken for Puerto Rican quite often--------she is quite 'brown'. Never mind that her lineage is Irish/Italian--------both of which are 'Anglo'.
Where are you getting your information from? Why would hispanic men shout anti-hispanic slurs at a fellow hispanic? It seems to me you are refusing to believe that certain people are incapable of killing another human being just because of their ethnicity or race.
What 'certain people' are you referring to?
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NEW YORK, NY December 11, 2008 —Council speaker Christine Quinn helped hand out flyers this morning at a subway station in Bushwick, Brooklyn.
The flyer shows a picture of a young African-American male. The suspect along with several others, allegedly beat 31 year old Jose Sucuzhanay with a baseball bat.
Police say the attackers made anti-gay and anti-Hispanic remarks, and they're investigating the incident as a hate crime.
Quinn says the crime requires a strong response.
QUINN: It's an unthinkable amount of violence. It's an unacceptable amount of hatred. We're just not going to allow something like that to go unchecked.
REPORTER: Police are offering a $22-thousand reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction.
Certain people capable of killing another human being just because of their ethnicity or race. Can i make it any clearer for you?
Those certain people deserve the very harshest of punishments.
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