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You know this or you assume this?(the underlined part)
You can back up this claim?
I disagree.
I can honestly say that every person i know who has ever watched regular old porn has eventually had sex. Surprise surprise.
SO yes, I can say only of the dozens and dozens of people i know, that watching porn eventually leads people to have sex.
I can only assume if in straight/gay porn leads into having real sex- then watching kiddie porn most likely leads to people trying it out on kids.
I don't see what is stopping them, since desire is desire and children are so easy to manipulate or authoritate over and scare. If they get off on it in the first place they have a screw loose.
I can honestly say that every person i know who has ever watched regular old porn has eventually had sex. Surprise surprise.
SO yes, I can say only of the dozens and dozens of people i know, that watching porn eventually leads people to have sex.
I can only assume if in straight/gay porn leads into having real sex- then watching kiddie porn most likely leads to people trying it out on kids.
I don't see what is stopping them, since desire is desire and children are so easy to manipulate or authoritate over and scare. If they get off on it in the first place they have a screw loose.
You know what assume leads to?
What may be stopping them is self control and a sense of right and wrong.
The same thing that stops someone from raping the wife of your sun bathing neighbor that turns you on.
The same thing that keeps you from beating up someone that has pissed you off.
The same thing that , thankfully, keeps most of us from giving in to our most base instincts.
You know what assume leads to?
What may be stopping them is self control and a sense of right and wrong.
The same thing that stops someone from raping the wife of your sun bathing neighbor that turns you on.
The same thing that keeps you from beating up someone that has pissed you off.
The same thing that , thankfully, keeps most of us from giving in to our most base instincts.
What a bunch of crap. The fact is, fantasizing about sex with children is a sick, self destructive and dangerous sexual prediliction. Quite unlike fantasizing about the hot neighbor -- unless you regularily fantasize about raping her and killing her. That would be a sign of either mental or moral decay. As is any desire to have sex with a child. Wrong doesn't begin to cover it.
But to hopefully make the distinction clearer for you --- imagining or doing sexual things with another consenting adult are fine, regardless of how outside the norm it may seem to other people. And I'm talking about kinks like S&M, goldenshowers, anal sex, group sex, cutting or whatever. If the participants are of adult age and have the mental capacity to agree to the acts there is no problem either actually doing it or fantasizing about it.
But when a person fantasizes about sex with children and uses child porn to facilitate those fantasies -- there is a massive problem with that. Again, those children were raped and victimized and regardless of whether the pedophile bought them or merely had another pedo share the pix/videos with him doesn't matter. He is responsible for perpetrating the sexual violence against that/those children. Demand equates the continued supply.
Pete Townsend (The Who) was arrested on same grounds. I believe his computer corroborated that it was research because text files linked to referencing it as a disease & links to human trafficking were also found. As far as I know he was never convicted/ charges were dropped. This mans computer better have research on it.
Pete Townsend (The Who) was arrested on same grounds. I believe his computer corroborated that it was research because text files linked to referencing it as a disease & links to human trafficking were also found. As far as I know he was never convicted/ charges were dropped. This mans computer better have research on it.
I knew there was someone who said he was researching! Just couldnt remember, uh, who.
If there was a sense of right and wrong they wouldn't be watching in the first place because CHILDREN ARE NOT SEXUAL BEINGS.
Watching 9 yr olds who you know RIGHTLY should not be having sex is WRONG. That is truly knowing right from wrong. Because anyone with common sense would not get aroused by watching that crap. If these people knew right from wrong the thought of children (who have no idea or inclination to have sex) being forced into doing sexual things with other childeren or adults and it being filmed would not turn them on. It would upset them that someone out there took advantage of this child and potentially screwed them up for a good long while.
If they don't know well enough that watching children have sex is wrong, then how would anyone in their right mind expect them to know not to take part in such activity?
If what Pete Townsend said is true and he was just researching something on the topic of children porn= than he would NOT BE GETTING OFF ON IT WHICH IS WhAT You ARE DEFENDING. TAking part in research- if it is VALID- is not the same category as men rubbing one out while watching a child porn videos and getting aroused by it.
All you are doing on here is JUSTIFYING something that is INHERENTLY EVIL to make yourself (or whomever you are defending for loving kiddie porn) feel that you really aren't that nasty for loving kiddie porn. But it is illegal and it is nasty and it is unnatural and it is not acceptable and it is dangerous for what it can lead to.
ENGAGING IN WATCHING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY IS THAT BAD.
That is why we have LAWS against even POSSESSING IT. Experience.
You are rationalizing something that is disgusting and there is no room in society for anyone who thinks watching child porn is harmless.
Anyone who knows children who have been preyed on and victimized could not possibly believe child pornography is a harmless crime. They would see the scars and they would see how sick and revolting it is to know that innocence has been stolen from these children.
The internet is a great place to lie and say we know victims or work with them when we really don't, just so we can try to rationalize illegal and pathetic behaviors such as watching child porn.
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Originally Posted by old_cold
You know what assume leads to?
What may be stopping them is self control and a sense of right and wrong.
The same thing that stops someone from raping the wife of your sun bathing neighbor that turns you on.
The same thing that keeps you from beating up someone that has pissed you off.
The same thing that , thankfully, keeps most of us from giving in to our most base instincts.
Taboo Males are visually orientated for arousal. Flash a picture of whatever at them and they're guilty if they're turned on by it? Would that define and identify a pedophile? There's so much more to it and I think men fear the entrapment aspects of things. I think that's why they make excuses for guys on those news show stings.
I mentioned pete townsend as an example and your response was about him so I'm assuming you're talking to me. If you're up to it you can read this 6 pg statement at this site. It does get graphic at one point and the word he uses to characterize it is evil. The Smoking Gun: Archive
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Townshend's paper... notes that the "pathway to 'free' paedophilic imagery is--as it were[on the net]--laid out like a free line of cocaine at a decadent cocktail party
I'm getting the feeling you're very emotionally involved in this issue so I'm not going to respond to you on this OP subject anymore.
Possession of child porn should be decriminalized. No possible combination of 1's and 0's should ever be illegal.
Production of child porn sometimes constitutes a legitimate crime (rape, violation of parents' rights, etc), but most of the time its just drunken teenagers taking photos of themselves on their cell-phones, which then get passed around the school and proliferated on Usenet, etc. With hundreds of millions of kids in the world and cell phone cameras becoming better and cheaper, there's just no way you can stop this - even if you throw millions into prison and try to destroy all digital technology a thriving black market will remain.
The mass hysteria over child / teenager sexuality must end. Some adults in this world still have a lot of growing up to do...
Possession of child porn should be decriminalized. No possible combination of 1's and 0's should ever be illegal.
Production of child porn sometimes constitutes a legitimate crime (rape, violation of parents' rights, etc), but most of the time its just drunken teenagers taking photos of themselves on their cell-phones, which then get passed around the school and proliferated on Usenet, etc. With hundreds of millions of kids in the world and cell phone cameras becoming better and cheaper, there's just no way you can stop this - even if you throw millions into prison and try to destroy all digital technology a thriving black market will remain.
The mass hysteria over child / teenager sexuality must end. Some adults in this world still have a lot of growing up to do...
I see the point you're trying to make, but most pedos don't watch 16-y.o kids having sex, but instead they get aroused by sex acts involving pre-pubescent children.
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