News, Lowe's Accused Of Firing Woman Over Xmas Pin. (interview, happy holidays, myth)
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Originally Posted by southernnaturelover
If it had been a Christmas tree, Santa Claus, or even the Virgin Mary I would have been on her side, but the way her pin was worded seemed to be begging for confrontation. The pin seemed to be more of a rant IMO.
I agree ... It was in poor taste to wear it and dioes not reflect positively on Christianity.
Seems to me that these things are put in the news to stir controversy where it does not exist, to stir resentment and hatred. I am a devotee of the St Francis philosophy, so quiet good works and Christ like humility for me serve as better examples than shouting from the soap box. I saw the Christmas spirit alot this year, in the lady who followed my husband and myself out of the store to tell us we had left behind a bag, in the Lowe's employee who cut the wood for us, so it would fit in the car even though it was not really his department, in the gas station cashier who paid for the kid in the line's extra gas when he realized he did not have a ten, just a five. Pins and pointless sayings do not spread the spirit of Christmas, people do. Merry Christmas to all and I hope the spirit of Christmas remains throughout the whole Christmas season!
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Seems to me that these things are put in the news to stir controversy where it does not exist, to stir resentment and hatred. I am a devotee of the St Francis philosophy, so quiet good works and Christ like humility for me serve as better examples than shouting from the soap box. I saw the Christmas spirit alot this year, in the lady who followed my husband and myself out of the store to tell us we had left behind a bag, in the Lowe's employee who cut the wood for us, so it would fit in the car even though it was not really his department, in the gas station cashier who paid for the kid in the line's extra gas when he realized he did not have a ten, just a five. Pins and pointless sayings do not spread the spirit of Christmas, people do. Merry Christmas to all and I hope the spirit of Christmas remains throughout the whole Christmas season!
Excellent post and I agree that actions do speak louder than words (or pin sayings).
she should have been asked to remove the pin.. and shouldn't have been fired... the pin was obviously not about the spirit of christmas and more of a political statement. Lowe's has every right when she is wearing their uniform to ask for it to be removed. But I think firing her without asking her to remove it first is making a strong statement as well. Sometimes you can't fight fire with fire... you need to just splash the whole situation with a bucket of cool water... there are many holidays durring this time.. in fact hanukkah this year actually started on the 22nd if I'm not mistaken.. so.. to have a rude pin like that was wrong... because not everyone in the store is out and about shopping for christmas...
Hell, I'm not even christian or believe in the jesus story.. but in the spirit of the holiday I sent out cards with 3 wise men and what not.. because it's in line with the holiday.. and I like the holiday.. I'm certainly not going to agree with anyone that wants christmas abolished... and I'm certainly not going to agree with someone who wants to silence people who hate christmas... it is what it is.. celebrate it or don't.... but for the sake of the holiday itself.. people need to know when to just shut the hell up... Militant anti christmas people are not going to ruin this holiday anytime soon.. because believe me.. there's plenty of us that are not religious that like it too... no need to throw your brains out on the sidewalk and kick them around like they are doing.. it only makes you look just as bad... If this lady refused to remove the pin knowing that it would lead to termination.. then she deserved it.
Actually ... I think the Bible gives us enough insight into how Jesus would act and I seriously doubt that He would wear such a pin.
Based on what evidence?
Your question is completely and totally moot, and is nothing but idle speculation (at best).
This has nothing whatever to do with whether or not Jesus would have worn that pin. It has to do with whether or not this lady was unjustly fired from Lowes for wearing it.
The Christian-haters here IMMEDIATELY jumped in with all manner of vitriol, making assumptions that are not in the OP article, and exposing their own bias and hatred. That is all that has happened here.
...the pin was obviously not about the spirit of christmas and more of a political statement.
Really?
I've seen lots and lots of "Jesus Is The Reason For The Season" & "Keep Christ in Christmas" bumpers stickers & pins over the years, and have never assumed that they were political in nature. I've always thought they were "anti-commercialism" in their sentiment. And that's kind of ironic, considering that this lady worked at Lowes, where they sell gazillions of dollars of cheap, gaudy commercial stuff at Christmas time.
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Based on what evidence?
Your question is completely and totally moot, and is nothing but idle speculation (at best).
This has nothing whatever to do with whether or not Jesus would have worn that pin. It has to do with whether or not this lady was unjustly fired from Lowes for wearing it.
The Christian-haters here IMMEDIATELY jumped in with all manner of vitriol, making assumptions that are not in the OP article, and exposing their own bias and hatred. That is all that has happened here.
Although the pin's message was truthful, it was a little too rude and "in-your-face" about what Christmas is about. Is this how Jesus is portrayed in the Bible? He may have been blunt with the hypocrits but He was always respectful in how He presented His message. It is Jesus' example that us Christians should follow. Asking what would Jesus do is a valid question that we should often ask ourselves as believers as a way of keeping ourselves in check. The woman could have gotten fired for insubordination but we don't know as the article was not specific so that is speculation.
Although the pin's message was truthful, it was a little too rude and "in-your-face" about what Christmas is about. Is this how Jesus is portrayed in the Bible? He may have been blunt with the hypocrits but He was always respectful in how He presented His message. It is Jesus' example that us Christians should follow. Asking what would Jesus do is a valid question that we should often ask ourselves as believers as a way of keeping ourselves in check. The woman could have gotten fired for insubordination but we don't know as the article was not specific so that is speculation.
My point all along - and I've said it repeatedly - is that we do NOT know the whole story. All we know is what was written in the article.
Honestly, I think the message (basically the wording of it) of the pin is kind of offensive. But that's just me. The truth is, had I been at that store I likely wouldn't have even seen it, because I try to make a habit of NOT staring at women's chests. And I never wear pins, or have bumper stickers on any of my vehicles. I just choose not to.
But beyond that, we simply do NOT know anything more about this story. The article doesn't say she was warned, and got belligerent. It just doesn't say much of anything.
That said, what disgusts me about this thread - and so many others here on CD - is that it gives all the "haters" here yet another chance to spew their hatred. And that's just dumb.
I've seen lots and lots of "Jesus Is The Reason For The Season" & "Keep Christ in Christmas" bumpers stickers & pins over the years, and have never assumed that they were political in nature. I've always thought they were "anti-commercialism" in their sentiment. And that's kind of ironic, considering that this lady worked at Lowes, where they sell gazillions of dollars of cheap, gaudy commercial stuff at Christmas time.
That is why it would be a political statement... because she didn't have it on her christmas sweater while walking thru the mall.. or on her car parked outside.. it was on her uniform AT WORK.... that makes it political.. and not of the spirit of christmas... I think we can all agree that christmas has been adopted to include the jesus story, as well as santa and all that.. so that everyone feels included or whatever.. We also have to remember that the origins of christmas being on this date was from roman times to stamp out pagan holidays. Many of the pagan traditions of europe have been included with the religious traditions.. which formulate the holiday that it is today.
promoting christ and his story to others is not political...I would liken it to religious missionaries... people aren't tied up and forced to believe it.. and some say no thanks.. while others find value and personal truth in it. In a public place AT work on an employers time and dime is not the place for it... and most would understand the principle of time and place for everything...
that wasn't the time or the place.... and it only causes controversy which IS against the spirit of christmas...
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