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Old 01-04-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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And; to run with your ball further, Thomas Sowell the sociologist who BTW, is a Black man has observed that many aspects of American Black culture closely mirror archaic American Irish society as well.
That would make sense, as many poor and working-class whites in the South were Irish in origin......
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:45 AM
 
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Spinning of the wheels? I think not.. Hitler may have been an unknown back in 1925, but surely Japan studied up on Hilter when he quickly took hold of Germany and started to make laws against in Jews in 1933.


I'm glad you finally decided to admit that Whites aren't as innocent as you make them to be.
Seriously, you need to broaden your knowledge on world history. The Japanese invaded China and Korea off and on for centuries --- long before Hitler was a gleam in his great-great-great-great granddaddys eye. To say that the Japanese (or any race of people) didnot know of genocide and slavery until introduced to the concept by Europeans is....I don't even know what to call it. Immature? Naive to the nth degree?
Whites do not have the corner market on atrocities. Humanity does -- but that does encompass all of humanity, not just certain shades of it.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:05 PM
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And; to run with your ball further, Thomas Sowell the sociologist who BTW, is a Black man has observed that many aspects of American Black culture closely mirror archaic American Irish society as well.
That's interesting ,In the book I mentioned , in around the 19th century they did'nt make any distinction between black or Irish prisoners in population reports,
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
What is your point?

Have you forgotten about Genghis Khan, Mohammed, etc? OK: strictly speaking, Arabs are White-----------but, many White supremacists do not accept that.

The cold reality is it was the luck of the draw that the Euros and the Japanese had better weapons coupled with warlike cultures.

Things change: not so many years ago the stereotype of Ireland was the 'Fighting Irish' logo; today..........the logo (and stereotype) of Ireland today is the harp. Same ethnicity but Ireland's culture has changed that much.


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Calm down, mule - That doesn't mean all the Irish killed each other.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
What is your point?

Have you forgotten about Genghis Khan, Mohammed, etc? OK: strictly speaking, Arabs are White-----------but, many White supremacists do not accept that.

The cold reality is it was the luck of the draw that the Euros and the Japanese had better weapons coupled with warlike cultures.

Things change: not so many years ago the stereotype of Ireland was the 'Fighting Irish' logo; today..........the logo (and stereotype) of Ireland today is the harp. Same ethnicity but Ireland's culture has changed that much.



Calm down, mule - That doesn't mean all the Irish killed each other.
LOL....thank goodness...had me worried for a second since most of them have quit writing me back.
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:43 PM
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That would make sense, as many poor and working-class whites in the South were Irish in origin......
IMO when the Irish came to America the value of slaves droped enough to make it some not profitable any more and thus , ended slavery , you could work an Irishman and pay him very little and unlike a slave you did'nt have the cost of his housing, medical care , clothing, food, and pay the same for his children, parents and granparents
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Old 01-04-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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IMO when the Irish came to America the value of slaves droped enough to make it some not profitable any more and thus , ended slavery , you could work an Irishman and pay him very little and unlike a slave you did'nt have the cost of his housing, medical care , clothing, food, and pay the same for his children, parents and granparents

Nice theory, except there is no correlation between the decline of slavery and the increase in Irish immigration. But it was a nice thought.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:10 PM
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Nice theory, except there is no correlation between the decline of slavery and the increase in Irish immigration. But it was a nice thought.
look at the cost of slaves before and after the Irish came , you might also read George Fitzhugh's "Cannibals All" (1854?) he belived that "Capitalisim" was another name for "Slavery" for White people and that it was cheaper, many people switched to "free Labor" and found it was profitable, you have to remember the cost of a single slave could be $1500.00 - $1800.00 that was a trememdous sum of money in the 18th century. by 1865 slaves like George Washington Carver sold for as little as $200.00 (Still, a years income for a poor person)
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:16 PM
 
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A friend of one of my kids had a baby by someone from South Africa, all three are white, mom, dad and baby. My question is, would the baby be African American?

This is true, I am not making it up.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:21 PM
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A friend of one of my kids had a baby by someone from South Africa, all three are white, mom, dad and baby. My question is, would the baby be African American?

This is true, I am not making it up.
Afrikanner American?
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