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01-05-2009, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by burdell
I get disgusted with people who in a lame attempt to justify their beliefs attempt to equate something like a blastocyst to a baby and claim it has the same rights as a human being. Say it 10,000,000 times, doesn't affect the facts.
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What are you talking about,
A blastocyst is about 5 days old, by this time the mother doesnt even know she has one.
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01-05-2009, 10:18 AM
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Location: SW Missouri
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Originally Posted by BigJon3475
Those people would die without life support... What's the difference... In your eyes those type of people are not humans yet... They can't support themselves...
Zoom again...?
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I didn't say they weren't human. I said that one of the factors of determining life is breathing.
Being once alive (breathing) and having something tragic happen that requires the medical/mechanical intervention to remain alive is very different than having an entitiy which was never alive to begin with. If there is such a thing as a soul (or the concept of a soul which I do believe in), It does not enter the body until the FIRST breath. Thereafter, the person is alive and a fully functioning human being, but not before.
So to answer your question, no it is not the same thing at all.
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01-05-2009, 10:28 AM
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Location: Dorchester
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Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost
Now we are straying from the subject. Why do conservatives believe that lawmakers have the same rights, over life of another person, as God does?
Atleast a mother is responsible for creating life and is in a position to decide. She is a creator.
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Have you not been reading the posts?
It actually requires male involvement to create human life.
The woman is literally the incubator and source of nourishment for the baby. The baby is not a part of it's mother, it is a product of it's mother.... And father as well.
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01-05-2009, 10:32 AM
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Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Life begins after my first cup of French Roast.
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01-05-2009, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson
I didn't say they weren't human. I said that one of the factors of determining life is breathing.
Being once alive (breathing) and having something tragic happen that requires the medical/mechanical intervention to remain alive is very different than having an entitiy which was never alive to begin with. If there is such a thing as a soul (or the concept of a soul which I do believe in), It does not enter the body until the FIRST breath. Thereafter, the person is alive and a fully functioning human being, but not before.
So to answer your question, no it is not the same thing at all.
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I dont think you know what being alive is...
I guess you need some biology.
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01-05-2009, 10:35 AM
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Location: SW Missouri
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Originally Posted by cjma79
I dont think you know what being alive is...
I guess you need some biology.
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Dude (or dudette), BIOLOGY (class) is where I got the definintion! LOL
20yrsinBranson
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01-05-2009, 10:35 AM
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Location: Montrose, CA
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Life begins when a fetus is able to survive outside of the mother without requiring extended heroic measures. Before that point, the fetus is simply a parasite.
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01-05-2009, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson
Dude (or dudette), BIOLOGY (class) is where I got the definintion! LOL
20yrsinBranson
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I am sorry,
but i guess they didnt teach you anaerobes.
Take it from me, BS in Biology and MD.
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01-05-2009, 10:39 AM
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Location: Dorchester
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Originally Posted by SuSuSushi
Life begins when a fetus is able to survive outside of the mother without requiring extended heroic measures. Before that point, the fetus is simply a parasite.
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Do you think that a breast feeding infant is a parasite?
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01-05-2009, 10:40 AM
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Location: Montrose, CA
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Originally Posted by cjma79
I am sorry,
but i guess they didnt teach you anaerobes.
Take it from me, BS in Biology and MD.
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What, they aren't teaching MDs how to use correct capitalization and punctuation anymore? What a shame. Considering your post above, I'd have never guess you were highly educated.
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