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Self defense and 2nd Amendment rights, or do you not recognize Constitutional protections?
What do you need to protect yourself from on a college campus? There are security guards with guns. Is that not enough? You need your own gun so you can shoot anyone who looks at you in a threatening way?
You'll notice that I acknowledge that my justification was the exception, not the rule. I said, on the off chance that some drunk person shot some people out of anger, guns shouldn't be allowed on college campuses. As far as I can tell, you're using a similar argument except you're saying that on the off chance a shooter turns up on campus the students should be allowed to own guns. Clearly neither of our arguments, using the exception to justify our positions, is practical. Maybe a better tactic would be to allow students on each college campus, separately, to vote on whether or not to allow guns. This, of course, could only occur at public colleges as private colleges are allowed to make their own rules. Do you think that would be a fair compromise?
To allow any restriction on a civil right there must be a very compelling argument for it. The SCOTUS touched on that briefly with the Heller Case. There is none for the argument against allowing carrying of firearms in colleges. It's possible some drunk on the street will shoot someone, but that does not allow the state to completely take away the right to carry a gun in public, except from the person who acted criminally.
What do you need to protect yourself from on a college campus? There are security guards with guns. Is that not enough? You need your own gun so you can shoot anyone who looks at you in a threatening way?
When I got out of the Army in 1991 I went to CMSU in Missouri. There was exactly 4 campus police. not a whole lot for 10,000 students.
What do you need to protect yourself from on a college campus? There are security guards with guns. Is that not enough? You need your own gun so you can shoot anyone who looks at you in a threatening way?
No one can predict what may happen to them. The police have no duty to protect you, the SCOTUS has repeatedly said it's an individual responsibility (IOW, it's your responsibility to protect yourself against criminals). And I don't know where you are, but when I was at college security guards were all unarmed.
When I got out of the Army in 1991 I went to CMSU in Missouri. There was exactly 4 campus police. not a whole lot for 10,000 students.
Wow, that's pretty bad. My campus has at least ten for approximately 5,000 students and only about 2,500 live on campus. But it's a pretty compact campus, so they're not spread out that badly.
But are people who show a lack of maturity and responsibility allowed to carry weapons and be responsible for million dollar tanks among other things? And a war zone is certainly different than a college campus, just so you know.
I knew quite a few incompetent people in the military, both soldiers and officers and they were allowed to use firearms just fine in the military.
Wow, you were telling me that liberals were responsible for the deaths of the students and now you're upset that I disagree.
liberals for the most part are responsible for the deaths of those killed, along with the person that murdered them. if not for liberals and alot of republicans, people could carry firearms where ever they wanted to and not have to worry about some thug trying to kill them or someone else.
No, I said that SOME younger people can't be trusted to carry a gun. If those young people happen to be in the military then I expect the military to prevent them from shooting or carrying guns. They can do first aid or something.
by that analogy, I think that most young people under the age of 25 and not in the military are too inept and cant be trusted to vote. but tell that to a liberal and you will see them scream that 60% of their voter base would disappear.
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