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01-10-2009, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CarolinaBredChicagoan
Buchanan. You know. The guy who pretty much allowed this country to plunge headlong into a Civil War that killed 600,000-700,000 Americans?
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How did he do that, precisely? It wasn't Buchanan's idea to suppress the secession by force, which is what killed 600,000 Americans.
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01-10-2009, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lostdestroyedlife
Bush was a failure, Carter got a bad rap because he had to face the mess of Vietnam/Nixon/FOrd as well as a huge Oil Embargo which was the main reason for the bad economy
Carter did some good, he put alot of policies to try and get us off our dependency on foriegn oil as well as looking for alternate energy sources, all these were scrapped by Reagan as he looked to cut anything that wasnt profitable for his corporate/war mongering friends
Reagan/Bush/Bush has been the Curse of the United States, Carter gets a bad rap because it is the GOP policy to blame everything on the Democrats
if you are an oil profiteers or a war profiteer or an otherwise corrupt fellow, then I apologize and you probably liked the Reagan/Bush/Bush presidencys
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No specifics? What did Carter do? When did he do it?
No Carter did precious little because he wasn't up to the job. A few solar panels thrown up on the roof of the White House and telling us all the wear sweaters accomplished nothing.
They got this great channel on basic cable. It's called the history channel. Check it out sometime!
" 29 Apr 75 - Last American soldier killed in Vietnam (the first was 8 Jul 59) The official American presence in Saigon ends when the last Americans are evacuated by helicopter from the US Embassy roof. Within hours the Saigon government surrenders to the VC"
Vietnam War Timeline : Vietnam War Statistics
So Carter had a problem with fuel prices, but GWB didn't?
If this is all you had, Why did you bother to post anything?
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01-10-2009, 11:11 PM
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Pro Freedom. Pro America. Pro Women. Pro Choice.
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Originally Posted by bchris02
Carter = Obama.
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Ignorant remark.
How can you say that considering Obama has not even had one day as president?
 Republican hatred.
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01-10-2009, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by saganista
As <fatchance2005> has pointed out, this thread offers a repeat of the same concocted balderdash that the same incurious poster has already seen debunked time and time again. Those who propose a 6,000-year old earth have better evidence in support of their claims than the OP in this case does...
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Besides agreement with another liberal What substance do you bring? Can you prove what you say, or should we simply take your word for it?
What has surprised me the most about this thread is that my liberal friends haven't even attempted to prove my premise wrong. A few personal attacks in passing and that's it? I am extremely disappointed in you liberals. I've seen better from you.
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01-10-2009, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice
Ignorant remark.
How can you say that considering Obama has not even had one day as president?
 Republican hatred.
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In one sense I agree with you. Carter was a sincere and honest individual who wasn't right for the job in a serious way, but he definitely was a sincere and honest individual. Obama on the other hand may not be so sincere and not be so honest.
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01-11-2009, 12:11 AM
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All this thread is telling everyone is what a horrible president the right wing thinks Bush has been! Think about it, who do they compare him too? Kennedy no, Clinton no, they try to compare him to the president that they have been slandering for 31 years saying how horrible he was, I guess considering how bad Bush is,  maybe it's a good comparison for them!
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01-11-2009, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by musicwriter
this is all crap. I don't know every single fact, but from what i can recall as i was growing up, each president, regardless of party affiliation was worse than the previous one. So what i am saying is that it doesn't matter what party is in charge, SOMETHING will get worse, and whatever didn't necessarily get worse will not get better, and they hand it off to the next person, and the problems just keep getting worse until they are beyond fixing.
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"I don't know every single fact"
That's why I provided the links.
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01-11-2009, 11:18 AM
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Well regardless of your ability to stick your head in the sand The record of Bush will make him by far the worse president in history. If we are lucky the new administration will seek an inquiry and hold them accountable for their crimes. Your information on Carter is as warped as your views on Bush. If you will see Bush as good there is no doubt you have no ability to see clearly anyone else's record.
Regan told you all is good and you believed his lies. He was the first in the line to damage the Constitution and we no longer have the country of our founding fathers. I hope Bush is seen for what he has done and prosecuted. He is a blight on the American system.
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01-11-2009, 11:22 AM
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Is that how "history will judge GWB", by comparring him to select historical figures?
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01-11-2009, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by momonkey
No specifics? What did Carter do? When did he do it?
No Carter did precious little because he wasn't up to the job. A few solar panels thrown up on the roof of the White House and telling us all the wear sweaters accomplished nothing.
They got this great channel on basic cable. It's called the history channel. Check it out sometime!
" 29 Apr 75 - Last American soldier killed in Vietnam (the first was 8 Jul 59) The official American presence in Saigon ends when the last Americans are evacuated by helicopter from the US Embassy roof. Within hours the Saigon government surrenders to the VC"
Vietnam War Timeline : Vietnam War Statistics
So Carter had a problem with fuel prices, but GWB didn't?
Attachment 33947
If this is all you had, Why did you bother to post anything?
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Carter had a problem with fuel prices because of the Arab Oil embargo, Bush had a problem with fuel prices because his friends in the right places were able to manipulate the prices to make his friends and family alot of money
As for what Carter did? Well he looked like he was on the right track as far as getting us more energy independent and less reliable on Foriegn oil, Carter Tried To Stop Bush's Energy Disasters - 28 Years Ago but then the Cancer of the Reagan administration came in and realized the profits for his friends were more important then the sanctity and well being of the average American
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